Hello,

I approve this document for publication.

Cheers,
Clarence

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Megan Ferguson <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2025 17:53
> To: Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> Cc: RFC Editor <[email protected]>; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; Roman Danyliw <[email protected]>; auth48archive@rfc-
> editor.org
> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9831 <draft-ietf-idr-bgp-sr-segtypes-ext-08>
> for your review
> 
> Hi Ketan,
> 
> Thank you for spotting that!  We have updated as requested (please refresh).
> 
> We have also marked you as “approved” at the AUTH48 status page (see
> below).  Once we have approvals from your coauthors, we will forward the
> necessary updates to IANA.
> 
>   The files have been posted here:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.txt
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.xml
> 
>   The relevant diff files have been posted here:
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>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> side)
> 
>   The AUTH48 status page for this document can be found here:
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9831
> 
>   The relevant cluster information can be found here:
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> Thank you.
> 
> Megan Ferguson
> RFC Production Center
> 
> > On Aug 22, 2025, at 11:52 PM, Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Megan,
> >
> > I had a look at the
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48diff.html and there
> > is still this change that needs to be reverted in section 2.7
> >
> >    SRv6 SID:  Optional.  A 16-octet IPv6 address.  The value 0 MAY be
> >       used when the controller wants to indicate the desired SRv6
> >       Endpoint Behavior
> > or and SID Structure without specifying the SID.
> > Besides that, everything looks good and please take this email as my
> approval for publication.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ketan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 1:35 AM Megan Ferguson <[email protected]
> editor.org> wrote:
> > Hi Ketan,
> >
> > Thank you for your prompt reply!
> >
> > We have updated as suggested and added these changes to the current
> files/diffs (please refresh).
> >
> >   The files have been posted here:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.xml
> >
> >   The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-diff.html (comprehensive)
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-rfcdiff.html (side by
> > side)
> >
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48rfcdiff.html (side
> > by side)
> >
> >   The AUTH48 status page for this document can be found here:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9831
> >
> >   The relevant cluster information can be found here:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C534
> >
> > Please let us know if any further updates are necessary.  We will await
> approvals from each party listed at the AUTH48 status page prior to moving
> forward in the publication process.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > RFC Editor/mf
> >
> > > On Aug 22, 2025, at 2:30 AM, Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Megan,
> > >
> > > Please check inline below for responses with KT2.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 12:23 AM Megan Ferguson <[email protected]
> editor.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Ketan,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your response and guidance.
> > >
> > > Some further questions/comments below marked with [rfced].
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] The following text from Section 2 may require
> > > >      clarification:
> > > >
> > > > "As specified in Sections 2.4.4 and 2.4.4.2 of [RFC9830],
> > > > validation of an explicit path encoded by the Segment List sub-TLV
> > > > is beyond the scope of BGP and performed by the Segment Routing
> > > > Policy Module (SRPM) as described in Section 5 of [RFC9256]."
> > > >
> > > > The term "Segment Routing Policy Module (SRPM)" doesn't appear in
> > > > [RFC9256].
> > > >
> > > > -->
> > > >
> > > > KT> It should be RFC9830
> > >
> > > [rfced] We believe the citation in the sentence following should be
> updated as well (and have made the update).  Please review and let us know
> if this is in error.
> > >
> > > KT2> That 2nd sentence should refer to RFC9256 so please revert that
> change to the original.
> > >
> > > What is being referenced is the following text
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9256.html#section-5.1
> > >
> > > Additionally, an explicit candidate path MAY be declared invalid when its
> constituent segment lists (valid or invalid) are using segment types of 
> different
> SR data planes.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 5) <!--[rfced] The following text led us to believe that the subsection
> > > >      titles of Section 2 would match the Type names listed in Section
> > > >      2 itself: but they do not.  Please review and let us know if a
> > > >      closer 1:1 matchup is desired between these.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > > [I-D.ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi] specifies Segment Type Sub-TLVs for
> > > > the segment types A and B.  The following sub-sections specify the
> > > > sub- TLVs used for encoding each of the other Segment Types above.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > KT> They look ok to me, but perhaps I don't follow your point. Could
> you please illustrate with an example?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -->
> > >
> > > [rfced] Sorry for any confusion.  Just curious if the wording should be
> made the same in the “names” of the Types.  We see:
> > >
> > > Original ToC:
> > >    2.  Segment Type Sub-TLVs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
> > >      2.1.  Segment Type C - SR-MPLS Prefix SID for IPv4  . . . . . .   4
> > >      2.2.  Segment Type D - SR-MPLS Prefix SID for IPv6  . . . . . .   5
> > >      2.3.  Segment Type E - SR-MPLS Adjacency SID for IPv4 with an
> > >             Interface ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
> > >      2.4.  Segment Type F - SR-MPLS Adjacency SID for IPv4 with an
> > >             Interface Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6
> > >      2.5.  Segment Type G - SR-MPLS Adjacency SID for IPv6 with an
> > >             Interface ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   7
> > >      2.6.  Segment Type H - SR-MPLS Adjacency SID for IPv6 with an
> > >             Interface Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
> > >      2.7.  Segment Type I - SRv6 END SID as IPv6 Node Address  . . .   9
> > >      2.8.  Segment Type J - SRv6 END.X SID as an Interface ID  . . .  11
> > >      2.9.  Segment Type K - SRv6 END.X SID as an Interface
> > >             Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> > > 12
> > >
> > > Original list in Section 2:
> > >    Type  A: SR-MPLS Label
> > >    Type  B: SRv6 SID
> > >    Type  C: IPv4 Prefix with optional SR Algorithm
> > >    Type  D: IPv6 Global Prefix with optional SR Algorithm for SR-MPLS
> > >    Type  E: IPv4 Prefix with Local Interface ID
> > >    Type  F: IPv4 Addresses for link endpoints as Local, Remote pair
> > >    Type  G: IPv6 Prefix and Interface ID for link endpoints as Local,
> > >             Remote pair for SR-MPLS
> > >    Type  H: IPv6 Addresses for link endpoints as Local, Remote pair
> > >             for SR-MPLS
> > >    Type  I: IPv6 Global Prefix with optional SR Algorithm for SRv6
> > >    Type  J: IPv6 Prefix and Interface ID for link endpoints as Local,
> > >             Remote pair for SRv6
> > >    Type  K: IPv6 Addresses for link endpoints as Local, Remote pair
> > >             for SRv6
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps the section titles of Section 2’s subsections should be updated as
> follows to match their descriptions in the ToC above (or vice versa (with the
> list in Section 2 being updated to match the styling in the original ToC))?
> > >
> > > For example, make the section titles be:
> > >      2.1.  Segment Type C: IPv4 Prefix with Optional SR Algorithm
> > >      2.2.  Segment Type D: IPv6 Global Prefix with Optional SR Algorithm 
> > > for
> SR-MPLS
> > >      2.3.  Segment Type E: IPv4 Prefix with Local Interface ID
> > >      2.4.  Segment Type F: IPv4 Addresses for Link Endpoints as Local,
> Remote Pair
> > >      2.5.  Segment Type G: IPv6 Prefix and Interface ID for Link 
> > > Endpoints as
> Local, Remote Pair for SRMPLS
> > >      2.6.  Segment Type H: IPv6 Addresses for Link Endpoints as Local,
> Remote Pair for SR-MPLS
> > >      2.7.  Segment Type I: IPv6 Global Prefix with Optional SR Algorithm 
> > > for
> SRv6
> > >      2.8.  Segment Type J: IPv6 Prefix and Interface ID for Link 
> > > Endpoints as
> Local, Remote Pair for IPv6
> > >      2.9.  Segment Type K: IPv6 for Link Endpoints as Local, Remote
> > > Pair for SRv6
> > >
> > >
> > > If this close of a relationship is not necessary/desired, it is fine to 
> > > leave
> them as they are.
> > >
> > > KT2> I see your point. However, now that you bring this up, the section
> titles seem too long. How about we just have "Segment Type X" and then it
> would be consistent with https://www.rfc-
> editor.org/authors/rfc9830.html#section-2.4.4.2.1 as well and much shorter?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that Section 2.4.4.2.4 of [RFC9830] uses the 
> > > > term
> > > >      "SRv6 SID Endpoint Behavior and Structure" rather than "SRv6
> > > >      Endpoint Behavior and SID Structure".  Please let us know if/how
> > > >      these uses may be made consistent.
> > > > -->
> > > >
> > > > KT> I would prefer the latter, but then we'll also need to make it
> > > > KT> consistent in RFC9830 (e.g.,
> > > > KT> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9830.html#section-2.4.4.
> > > > KT> 2.4 )
> > > >
> > > [rfced] We have updated to use the latter throughout this document and
> consistently throughout RFC-to-be 9830.  Please review the use in both
> documents (as an author of each) and reply to each specific email thread
> with any further updates and/or approval of the changes.  Note that we also
> changed some instances in which “or” was used instead of “and” to be “and”
> consistently.  Please let us know if this was in error.
> > >
> > > KT2> The changes where the "or" was replaced by "and" are incorrect. In
> those cases, we mean that when either the "SRv6 Endpoint Behavior" or "SID
> Structure" then the SID can be set to 0. Please revert that change. The rest
> looks good to me.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 8) <!--[rfced] Please review the entries in Table 1 in light of this 
> > > > response
> regarding the names of sub-TLVs from Ketan when we discussed this topic for
> RFC-to-be 9830:
> > > >
> > > > Ketan:
> > > > "The names of the segments (titles) are to be "Segment Type X" while
> the name of the sub-TLVs are to be "Type X Segment sub-TLV" (I've seen both
> sub-TLV and Sub-TLV - either is OK but we should have been consistent). The
> "Type-1" is actually "Type A Segment sub-TLV"."
> > > >
> > > > If updates are necessary to the corresponding IANA registry, we
> > > > will communicate them on your behalf once AUTH48 concludes.
> > > >
> > > > KT> Yes, please apply the same to this document as well for
> > > > KT> consistency. However, I notice that the IANA sections in both
> > > > KT> 9830 and 9831 are not matching the sub-TLV names. Could you
> > > > KT> please fix that?
> > > > KT> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9830.html#section-6.5
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —>
> > > [rfced] We have made the necessary updates to Table 1 and will
> communicate these changes to IANA once AUTH48 completes.
> > >
> > > With regard to RFC-to-be 9830: We believe you are referring to values 1
> and 13 in Table 5 (of Section 6.5) and have updated the document and will
> communicate this change to IANA along with the changes to this document
> (once AUTH48 for RFC-to-be 9831 concludes).
> > >
> > > KT2> Correct.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We ask again that you review the changes to RFC 9830 and communicate
> your approval or need for further updates in that email thread (for other
> authors’ benefit as well as the AUTH48 archive).
> > >
> > > KT2> Done.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ketan
> > >
> > >
> > > Any other changes have been incorporated as requested.  Please review
> carefully as we do not make changes once the document is published as an
> RFC.
> > >
> > >   The files have been posted here:
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.txt
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.pdf
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.html
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831.xml
> > >
> > >   The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-diff.html (comprehensive)
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-rfcdiff.html (side by
> > > side)
> > >
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9831-auth48rfcdiff.html
> > > (side by side)
> > >
> > >   The AUTH48 status page for this document can be found here:
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9831
> > >
> > >   The relevant cluster information can be found here:
> > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C534
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > RFC Editor/mf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

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