Hi, Gabriel.  Many thanks for letting us know about the timeline and for your 
kind words!  We will wait to hear from Marcelo.

Lynne Bartholomew
RFC Production Center 

> On Aug 27, 2025, at 8:43 AM, Gabriel Montenegro <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lynne,
> 
> Our main editor is Marcelo and he's currently on vacation.  He'll return 
> shortly but then will be very busy for a few more days. He did indicate to me 
> that he'd respond to you and clarify that once he gets some time he'll work 
> on the response from our part.
> 
> Thanks a lot for all your efforts improving our draft and preparing it for 
> RFC-hood!
> 
> Gabriel
> 
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>> Lynne Bartholomew
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2025, at 1:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Authors,
>>> 
>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Alberto, would you prefer that we use accented letters
>>> in your name in this and subsequent RFCs?  We ask because we see
>>> "García-Martínez" in [COMNET1], [COMNET2], and [COMNET3].  We are
>> fine
>>> either way, but we ask because some authors prefer that the accents be
>>> used.  If you prefer that we use the accented letters going forward,
>>> we will note your preference for future reference.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> A. Garcia-Martinez
>>> ...
>>> Alberto Garcia-Martinez -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear
>>> in the
>>> title) for use on
>>> 
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>>> rfc-
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document.  See
>>> 
>> <https://www/.
>>> rfc-editor.org%2Frfc%2Frfc5743.html%23section-
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 1:  Is there a distinction between
>>> "standard-TCP" and "standard TCP" (e.g., "standard TCP sender",
>>> "standard-TCP flow") as used in this document, or do they mean the
>>> same thing?  We ask because we see "hereafter referred (to) as
>>> standard-TCP for short" in the second paragraph of Section 1.
>>> If "standard-TCP" and "standard TCP" mean the same thing, we suggest
>>> removing the hyphen*.
>>> 
>>> * Please note that we also see "standard TCP" but not "standard-TCP"
>>> in RFC 6817, and the only published RFC to date that uses
>>> "standard-TCP" appears to be RFC 1687 ("A Large Corporate User's View
>>> of IPng"), published in August 1994.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> When LEDBAT traffic shares a bottleneck with other traffic using
>>> standard congestion control algorithms (for example, TCP traffic using
>>> Cubic[RFC9438], hereafter referred as standard-TCP for short), it
>>> reduces its sending rate earlier and more aggressively than
>>> standard-TCP congestion control, allowing other non-background traffic
>>> to use more of the available capacity.
>>> ...
>>> rLEDBAT assumes that the sender is a standard TCP sender.
>>> ...
>>> This guarantees
>>> that the rLEDBAT flow will never transmit more aggressively than a
>>> standard-TCP flow, as the sender's congestion window limits the
>>> sending rate. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Appendix A (moved to Section 2, as noted below):
>>> 
>>> a)  Please note the following:
>>> 
>>> * Because we found "RFC 2119 key words" (e.g., "MUST", "SHOULD") in
>>>  this document, per our standard process we added the appropriate
>>>  boilerplate text and Normative Reference listings.
>>> 
>>> * We moved the contents of Appendix A to a new Section 2, so that
>>>  readers can read the definitions of the terms before they are used
>>>  in this document (e.g., "RCV.WND" in Section 4.1).
>>> 
>>> b) We had trouble following the meaning of "(which computation is
>>> modified by this specification)".  Does "which computation" mean "the
>>> computation of which", and does "this specification" refer to this
>>> document or the specification of the value?  If the suggested text is
>>> not correct, please clarify.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> RCV.WND: the value included in the Receive Window field of the TCP
>>> header (which computation is modified by this specification)
>>> 
>>> Suggested:
>>> RCV.WND:  The value included in the Receive Window field of the TCP
>>>   header (the computation of which is modified by its specification).
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Appendix A and Section 3.1:  Regarding "RFC793bis
>>> (TCP)
>>> receiver":  Should RFC 9293 ("Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)"),
>>> which obsoletes RFC 793, be cited in the text as suggested below?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> fcwnd: the value that a standard RFC793bis TCP receiver calculates to
>>> set in the receive window for flow control purposes.
>>> ...
>>> In order to avoid confusion, we
>>> will call fcwnd the value that a standard RFC793bis TCP receiver
>>> calculates to set in the receive window for flow control purposes.
>>> We call RLWND the window value calculated by rLEDBAT algorithm and we
>>> call RCV.WND the value actually included in the Receive Window field
>>> of the TCP header.  For a RFC793bis receiver, RCV.WND == fcwnd.
>>> 
>>> Suggested:
>>> fcwnd:  The value that a standard TCP receiver compliant with
>>>   [RFC9293] calculates to set in the receive window for flow
>>>   control purposes.
>>> ...
>>> In order to avoid confusion, we will call fcwnd the value that a
>>> standard TCP receiver compliant with [RFC9293] calculates to set in
>>> the receive window for flow control purposes.  We call RLWND the
>>> window value calculated by the rLEDBAT algorithm, and we call RCV.WND
>>> the value actually included in the Receive Window field of the TCP
>>> header.  For a receiver compliant with [RFC9293], RCV.WND == fcwnd.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Sections 3, 3.2.1, and 3.2.2:
>>> 
>>> a) We changed "Time Stamp Option", "Time Stamp (TS) option", and
>>> "TimeStamp option" to "TCP Timestamps option" or "TS option", per RFC
>>> 7323 and "TS option generation rules [RFC7323]" used elsewhere in this
>>> document.  Please let us know any concerns.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> In particular, the sender MUST
>>> implement [RFC9293] and it also MUST implement the Time Stamp Option
>>> as defined in [RFC7323].
>>> ...
>>> In order to measure RTT, the rLEDBAT client MUST enable the Time Stamp
>>> (TS) option [RFC7323].
>>> ...
>>> In the case of TCP, the receiver can use the TimeStamp option to
>>> measure the one way delay by subtracting the timestamp contained in
>>> the incoming packet from the local time at which the packet has
>>> arrived.
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> In particular, the sender MUST
>>> implement [RFC9293] and also MUST implement the TCP Timestamps (TS)
>>> option as defined in [RFC7323].
>>> ...
>>> In order to measure RTT, the rLEDBAT client MUST enable the TS option
>>> [RFC7323].
>>> ...
>>> In the case of TCP, the receiver can use the TS option to measure the
>>> one-way delay by subtracting the timestamp contained in the incoming
>>> packet from the local time at which the packet has arrived.
>>> 
>>> b) We do not see "New Reno", "NewReno", or "Reno" mentioned anywhere
>>> in RFC 5681.  May we also cite RFC 6582 ("The NewReno Modification to
>>> TCP's Fast Recovery Algorithm"), which obsoletes RFC 3782 (which we
>>> see mentioned in RFC 5681), for ease of the reader?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> Also, the sender should implement some of the standard congestion
>>> control mechanisms, such as Cubic [RFC9438] or New Reno [RFC5681].
>>> 
>>> Suggested:
>>> Also, the sender should implement
>>> some of the standard congestion control mechanisms, such as CUBIC
>>> [RFC9438] or NewReno [RFC5681] [RFC6582].
>>> ...
>>> [RFC6582]  Henderson, T., Floyd, S., Gurtov, A., and Y. Nishida, "The
>>>           NewReno Modification to TCP's Fast Recovery Algorithm",
>>>           RFC 6582, DOI 10.17487/RFC6582, April 2012,
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 3:
>>> 
>>> a) Will "other documents" be clear to readers?  Should one or more
>>> specific documents be cited here?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> The LBE
>>> congestion control algorithm executed in the rLEDBAT receiver is
>>> defined in other documents.
>>> 
>>> b) Does "The rLEDBAT MAY use other LBE congestion control algorithms
>>> defined elsewhere" mean "The rLEDBAT receiver MAY use other LBE
>>> congestion control algorithms defined elsewhere" or something else?
>>> We ask because we see "the rLEDBAT node", "the rLEDBAT receiver", "the
>>> rLEDBAT host", etc.
>>> 
>>> We have the same question re. "the rLEDBAT in host A"
>>> (Section 3.2.1.1) and "How the rLEDBAT should resume" (Section 4).
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> The rLEDBAT MAY
>>> use other LBE congestion control algorithms defined elsewhere.
>>> ...
>>> This limitation of the sender's window can come either from the TCP
>>> congestion window in host B or from the announced receive window from
>>> the rLEDBAT in host A.
>>> ...
>>> - How the rLEDBAT should resume after a period during which there was
>>> no incoming traffic and the information about the rLEDBAT state
>>> information is potentially dated. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Sections 3.1 and 3.1.1:  We had trouble following the
>>> meaning of "honoring both", "may fall short to honor", "honoring
>>> that", and "sufficient to honor the window output" in these sentences.
>>> Please clarify.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> This
>>> may fall short to honor the new calculated value of the RLWND
>>> immediately.  However, the receiver SHOULD progressively reduce the
>>> advertised RCV.WND, always honoring that the reduction is less or
>>> equal than the received bytes, until the target window determined by
>>> the rLEDBAT algorithm is reached.
>>> ...
>>> In the case of rLEDBAT receiver, the rLEDBAT receiver MUST NOT set the
>>> RCV.WND to a value larger than fcwnd and it SHOULD set the RCV.WND to
>>> the minimum of RLWND and fcwnd, honoring both.
>>> ...
>>> In order to avoid window shrinking, the receiver MUST only reduce
>>> RCV.WND by the number of bytes upon of a received data packet.  This
>>> may fall short to honor the new calculated value of the RLWND
>>> immediately.  However, the receiver SHOULD progressively reduce the
>>> advertised RCV.WND, always honoring that the reduction is less or
>>> equal than the received bytes, until the target window determined by
>>> the rLEDBAT algorithm is reached.  This implies that it may take up to
>>> one RTT for the rLEDBAT receiver to drain enough in-flight bytes to
>>> completely close its receive window without shrinking it.  This is
>>> sufficient to honor the window output from the LEDBAT/LEDBAT++
>>> algorithms since they only allow to perform at most one multiplicative
>>> decrease per RTT. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1:  We had trouble parsing this sentence.
>>> We updated it as follows.  If this is incorrect, please clarify the
>>> text.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> One exception to this
>>> is at the beginning of the connection, when there is no information to
>>> set RLWND, then, RLWND is set to its maximum value, so that the
>>> sending rate of the sender is governed by the flow control algorithm
>>> of the receiver and the TCP slow start mechanism of the sender.
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> One exception to
>>> this scenario is that at the beginning of the connection, when there
>>> is no information to set RLWND, RLWND is set to its maximum value, so
>>> that the sending rate of the sender is governed by the flow control
>>> algorithm of the receiver and the TCP slow start mechanism of the
>>> sender. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1.1:
>>> 
>>> a) Please clarify "upon of" in this sentence.  Are some words missing,
>>> or should either "upon" or "of" be removed?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> In order to avoid window shrinking, the receiver MUST only reduce
>>> RCV.WND by the number of bytes upon of a received data packet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> b) Does "they only allow to perform" mean "they are only allowed to
>>> perform", "they only permit performing", or something else?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> This is
>>> sufficient to honor the window output from the LEDBAT/LEDBAT++
>>> algorithms since they only allow to perform at most one multiplicative
>>> decrease per RTT. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1.2:  We changed "with WS of 14" to "with a
>>> WS option value of 14" here, to indicate the option value as opposed
>>> to the concept of window scale.  If this is incorrect, please clarify.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> WS option values higher than 11 can affect the dynamics of rLEDBAT,
>>> since control may become too coarse (e.g., with WS of 14, a change in
>>> one unit of the receive window implies a change of 10 MSS in the
>>> effective window).
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> WS option values higher than 11 can affect the dynamics of rLEDBAT,
>>> since control may become too coarse (e.g., with a WS option value of
>>> 14, a change in one unit of the receive window implies a change of 10
>>> MSS in the effective window). -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.2.1:  Please confirm that "error" is the
>>> correct word here.  The approach discussed in this section does not
>>> seem to otherwise be considered an error - only an approach with a
>>> limitation (per the previous sentence).  Please confirm that calling
>>> this approach an error will be clear to readers.
>>> 
>>> Original (the previous sentence is included for context):
>>> This is a fundamental limitation of this approach.  The impact of this
>>> error is that the rLEDBAT controller will also react to congestion in
>>> the reverse path direction which results in an even more conservative
>>> mechanism.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps ("this limitation"):
>>> This is a fundamental limitation of this approach.  The impact of this
>>> limitation is that the rLEDBAT controller will also react to
>>> congestion in the reverse path direction, resulting in an even more
>>> conservative mechanism.
>>> 
>>> Or possibly ("this issue"):
>>> This is a fundamental limitation of this approach.  The impact of this
>>> issue is that the rLEDBAT controller will also react to congestion in
>>> the reverse path direction, resulting in an even more conservative
>>> mechanism. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.2.1:  Does "as it is usually done in TCP"
>>> indicate a comparison or a contrast?  If the suggested text is not
>>> correct, please clarify.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> In a pure
>>> receiver there is no data flowing from the rLEDBAT receiver to the
>>> sender, making impossible to match data packets with acknowledgements
>>> packets to measure RTT, as it is usually done in TCP for other
>>> purposes.
>>> 
>>> Suggested (guessing a contrast):
>>> In a pure
>>> receiver, there is no data flowing from the rLEDBAT receiver to the
>>> sender, making it impossible to match data packets with Acknowledgment
>>> packets to measure RTT, in contrast to what is usually done in TCP for
>>> other purposes. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Sections 3.2.1 and subsequent:  Because "TSval"
>>> stands for "Timestamp Value" per RFC 7323, may we change the instances
>>> of "TSval value" to "TSval", to avoid the appearance of "Timestamp
>>> Value value"? -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Sections 3.2.1.1 and 3.2.1.2:  For ease of the
>>> reader, we changed "min filter" to "MIN filter" and cited RFC 6817
>>> here (where "MIN filter" is first used).  Please let us know any concerns.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> To address this
>>> situation, the filter used by the congestion control algorithm
>>> executed in the receiver SHOULD discard outliers (e.g. a min filter
>>> would achieve this) when measuring RTT using pure ACK packets.
>>> ...
>>> Also, applying a filter that
>>> discards outliers would also address this issue (e.g. a min filter).
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> To address this
>>> situation, the filter used by the congestion control algorithm
>>> executed in the receiver SHOULD discard outliers (e.g., a MIN filter
>>> [RFC6817] would achieve this) when measuring RTT using pure ACK
>>> packets.
>>> ...
>>> Applying a filter (e.g., a MIN
>>> filter) that discards outliers would also address this issue. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.2.2:  We changed 'effectively canceling the
>>> clock offset error' to 'effectively "canceling out" the clock offset
>>> error' per Appendix A.1 of RFC 6817 (which says 'the offsets cancel
>>> each other out in the queuing delay estimate').  Please let us know
>>> any objections.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> As noted in [RFC6817] the clock offset between the clock of the sender
>>> and the clock in the receiver does not affect the LEDBAT operation,
>>> since LEDBAT uses the difference between the base one way delay and
>>> the current one way delay to estimate the queuing delay, effectively
>>> canceling the clock offset error in the queueing delay estimation.
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> As noted
>>> in [RFC6817], the clock offset between the sender's clock and the
>>> receiver's clock does not affect the LEDBAT operation, since LEDBAT
>>> uses the difference between the base one-way delay and the current
>>> one-way delay to estimate the queuing delay, effectively "canceling
>>> out" the clock offset error in the queuing delay estimation. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.2.2:  We had trouble parsing these sentences.
>>> If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify the meaning of
>>> "the receiver is unaware if the sender is injecting traffic" and
>>> "reducing the announced receive window to a few packets and perform".
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> The problem is that the receiver is unaware if the sender is injecting
>>> traffic at any point in time, and so, it is unable to use these quiet
>>> intervals to perform measurements.  The receiver can however, force
>>> periodic slowdowns, reducing the announced receive window to a few
>>> packets and perform the measurements then.
>>> 
>>> Suggested:
>>> The problem is that the receiver is unaware of whether the sender is
>>> injecting traffic at any point in time; it is therefore unable to use
>>> these quiet intervals to perform measurements.  The receiver can,
>>> however, force periodic slowdowns, reducing the announced receive
>>> window to a few packets and performing the measurements at that time.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.3:  This sentence does not parse.  If the
>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify "reducing its window to
>>> 1MSS and take over the control".
>>> 
>>> Original (the previous sentence is included for context):
>>> If all packets in the tail
>>> of the window are lost, the receiver will not be able to detect a
>>> mismatch between the sequence numbers of the packets and the order of
>>> the timestamps.  In this case, rLEDBAT will not react to losses but
>>> the TCP congestion controller at the sender will, most likely reducing
>>> its window to 1MSS and take over the control of the sending rate,
>>> until slow start ramps up and catches the current value of the rLEDBAT
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> Suggested (the missing space in "1MSS" has been added):
>>> In this case, rLEDBAT will not react to losses; however, the TCP
>>> congestion controller at the sender will, most likely reducing its
>>> window to 1 MSS and taking over the control of the sending rate until
>>> slow start ramps up and catches the current value of the rLEDBAT
>>> window. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] Section 4:  We (1) changed "the sender and the
>>> receiver Congestion control algorithms" to "the sender's and
>>> receiver's congestion control algorithms" per the next sentence and
>>> (2) clarified that "these two" means "these two algorithms".
>>> Please let us know if anything is incorrect.
>>> 
>>> Original (the next sentence is included for context):
>>> - Interaction between the sender and the receiver Congestion control
>>> algorithms. rLEDBAT posits that because the rLEDBAT receiver is using
>>> a less-than-best-effort congestion control algorithm, the receiver
>>> congestion control algorithm will expose a smaller congestion window
>>> (conveyed though the Receive Window) than the one resulting from the
>>> congestion control algorithm executed at the sender.  One of the
>>> purposes of the experiment is learn how these two interact and if the
>>> assumption that the receiver side is always controlling the sender's
>>> rate (and making rLEDBAT effective) holds.
>>> 
>>> Currently ("conveyed though the" has also been corrected):
>>> *  Interaction between the sender's and receiver's congestion control
>>>   algorithms.  rLEDBAT posits that because the rLEDBAT receiver is
>>>   using a less-than-best-effort congestion control algorithm, the
>>>   receiver's congestion control algorithm will expose a smaller
>>>   congestion window (conveyed through the Receive Window) than the
>>>   one resulting from the congestion control algorithm executed at
>>>   the sender.  One of the purposes of the experiment is to learn how
>>>   these two algorithms interact and if the assumption that the
>>>   receiver side is always controlling the sender's rate (and making
>>>   rLEDBAT effective) holds. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1:
>>> 
>>> a) Because the latest version of [Windows11] is dated October 2024 and
>>> "2023" is not mentioned on the page, we cannot verify "since October
>>> 2023".  A Google search for "Windows 11 22H2 ledbat 2023"
>>> does not provide any information.  Will "October 2023" be clear to
>>> readers, or should this item be rephrased?  If you would like to
>>> rephrase, please provide clarifying text.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> - Windows 11. rLEDBAT is available in Microsoft's Windows 11 22H2
>>> since October 2023 [Windows11].
>>> 
>>> b) Would you like us to cite these GitHub pages and list them in the
>>> Informative References section, as suggested below?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> - Linux implementation, open source, available since 2022 at
>>> 
>> https://github.c/
>> om%2Fnet-
>> research%2Frledbat_module&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cc91c22ce9f18453a9c5a
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>> XgfMYDds%2FK9k%3D&reserved=0.
>>> 
>>> - ns3 implementation, open source, available since 2020 at
>>> 
>> https://github.c/
>> om%2Fmanas11%2Fimplementation-of-rLEDBAT-in-ns-
>> 3&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cc91c22ce9f18453a9c5a08dde3f6db3a%7C84df9e7f
>> e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638917371576840026%7CUnkno
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>> a=fHde8vtCMWawuzxUU%2FqkHyQcERsBvuz4wQliHPsCiCM%3D&reserved=0
>> .
>>> 
>>> Suggested:
>>> *  Linux implementation, open source, available since 2022
>>>   [rledbat_module].
>>> 
>>> *  ns3 implementation, open source, available since 2020
>>>   [rLEDBAT-in-ns3].
>>> ...
>>> [rledbat_module]  "rledbat_module", commit d82ff20, September 2022,
>>> 
>> <https://github/.
>> com%2Fnet-
>> research%2Frledbat_module&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cc91c22ce9f18453a9c5a
>> 08dde3f6db3a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63891
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>> qZd%2BclQ%3D&reserved=0>.
>>> 
>>> [rLEDBAT-in-ns3]  "Implementation-of-rLEDBAT-in-ns-3", commit
>>>                  2ab34ad, June 2020,
>>> 
>> <https://github/.
>> com%2Fmanas11%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cc91c22ce9f18453a9c5a08dde3
>> f6db3a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63891737157
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>> 4U%3D&reserved=0
>>>                  implementation-of-rLEDBAT-in-ns-3>. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1:  Do the "#" symbols mean "number" in
>>> these items or something else?  Will the text be clear "as is" to readers?
>>> If not, please clarify.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> - Windows update # using DO
>>> 
>>> - Windows Store # using DO
>>> ...
>>> - Windows Error Reporting # wermgr.exe; werfault.exe ...
>>> - Xbox (download games) # using DO -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] References:  We found and added DOIs for [COMNET1],
>>> [COMNET2], and [COMNET3].  The DOIs lead to open-access versions of
>>> those references.  Please review our updates and the new links, and
>>> let us know if anything is incorrect.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> [COMNET1]  Bagnulo, M.B. and A.G. Garcia-Martinez, "An experimental
>>>           evaluation of LEDBAT++", Computer Networks Volume 212,
>>>           2022.
>>> 
>>> [COMNET2]  Bagnulo, M.B. and A.G. Garcia-Martinez, "When less is
>>>           more: BBR versus LEDBAT++", Computer Networks Volume 219,
>>>           2022.
>>> 
>>> [COMNET3]  Bagnulo, M.B., Garcia-Martinez, A.G., Mandalari, A.M.,
>>>           Balasubramanian, P.B,., Havey, D.H., and G.M. Montenegro,
>>>           "Design, implementation and validation of a receiver-
>>>           driven less-than-best-effort transport", Computer
>>>           Networks Volume 233, 2022.
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> [COMNET1]  Bagnulo, M. and A. García-Martínez, "An experimental
>>>           evaluation of LEDBAT++", Computer Networks, vol. 212,
>>>           DOI 10.1016/j.comnet.2022.109036, July 2022,
>>> 
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>> MB2fGActODKR1rtM%3D&reserved=0>.
>>> 
>>> [COMNET2]  Bagnulo, M. and A. García-Martínez, "When less is more:
>>>           BBR versus LEDBAT++", Computer Networks, vol. 219,
>>>           DOI 10.1016/j.comnet.2022.109460, December 2022,
>>> 
>> <https://doi.org/
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>> ewmAMdgzRm9GpuxKgLQ%3D&reserved=0>.
>>> 
>>> [COMNET3]  Bagnulo, M., García-Martínez, A., Mandalari, A.M.,
>>>           Balasubramanian, P., Havey, D., and G. Montenegro,
>>>           "Design, implementation and validation of a receiver-
>>>           driven less-than-best-effort transport", Computer
>>>           Networks, vol. 233, DOI 10.1016/j.comnet.2023.109841,
>>>           September 2023,
>>> 
>>> <https://doi/.
>>> 
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>> 18453
>>> 
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>> C%7C%7
>>> 
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>> d=0>.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 24) <!-- [rfced] Appendix B:  As it appears that "TSecr field" should
>>> remain singular (i.e., not be "TSecr fields") and "TSecr field" is the
>>> subject of this sentence, we changed "are" to "is".  Please let us
>>> know if "TSecr field" should be "TSecr fields" instead.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> The TSecr field of
>>> the packets received by the rLEDBAT-enabled endpoint are matched with
>>> the sendList to compute the RTT.
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> The TSecr field of
>>> the packets received by the rLEDBAT-enabled endpoint is matched with
>>> the sendList to compute the RTT. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 25) <!-- [rfced] Figures 2 and 3:  Per the contents of the figures and
>>> the title of Appendix B, we set the sourcecode type to "pseudocode".
>>> Please let us know any concerns.
>>> 
>>> Please see
>>> 
>> <https://www/.
>>> rfc-editor.org%2Frpc%2Fwiki%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dsourcecode-
>> types&data=05
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>> 435aaaa
>>> 
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>> ctKG5%2
>>> F2tx%2FAC4Q%3D&reserved=0>
>>> for a list of sourcecode types. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 26) <!-- [rfced] Figure 3:  Should "RWND" be "RLWND" here?  We ask
>>> because we do not see "RWND" used elsewhere in this document.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> //Compute the RWND to include in the packet RLWND = min(RLWND,
>> fcwnd)
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 27) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following
>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please
>>> review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
>>> 
>>> Controlled Delay (CoDel)
>>> Proportional Integral controller Enhanced (PIE) Low Latency, Low Loss,
>>> and Scalable Throughput (L4S) Maximum Segment Size (MSS) Bottleneck
>>> Bandwidth and Round-trip propagation time (BBR)
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 28) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>> online Style Guide at
>>> 
>> <https://www/.
>>> rfc-
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>>> 
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>>> Q32kIs%3D&reserved=0>, and let us know if any changes are needed.
>>> Updates of this nature typically result in more precise language,
>>> which is helpful for readers.
>>> 
>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 29) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed for the
>>> following:
>>> 
>>> a) The following terms were used inconsistently in this document.
>>> We chose to use the latter forms.  Please let us know any objections.
>>> 
>>> Congestion control (1 instance) / congestion control (46 instances)
>>> 
>>> RCV-WND (Figure 1) / RCV WND (Section 5) /
>>>  RCV.WND (per the rest of this document and per published RFCs
>>>    to date)
>>> 
>>> TSVal / TSval (per published RFCs, including RFC 7323; we could not
>>>  find "TSVal" in any published RFC)
>>> 
>>> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
>>> document.  Please let us know which form is preferred.
>>> 
>>> a rLEDBAT / an rLEDBAT
>>> 
>>> Receive window / Receive Window / receive window  (We see that
>>> "congestion window" is used consistently.)
>>> 
>>> sendList / sentList -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Lynne Bartholomew and Rebecca VanRheenen RFC Production Center
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2025, at 1:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> *****IMPORTANT*****
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> RFC9840 (draft-irtf-iccrg-rledbat-10)
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>>> Title            : rLEDBAT: receiver-driven Low Extra Delay Background 
>>> Transport
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>>> Author(s)        : M. Bagnulo, A. Garcia-Martinez, G. Montenegro, P.
>> Balasubramanian
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