Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
the following questions, which are also in the source file.

1) <!--[rfced] Please consider the following regarding the document title.  

a) Please note that we have expanded DPLPMTUD in the title as shown below.  
Please let us know any concerns. 

Original:
   Datagram PLPMTUD for UDP Options

Current:
   Datagram Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery (DPLPMTUD) for UDP Options


b) May we update the short title as follows for clarity? Note that this
appears in the header of the PDF output. 

Original:
   UDPO DPLPMTUD

Perhaps:
   UDP Options with DPLPMTUD
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] We have some questions about the following quoted text from
Section 3.2 of [RFC9085].

a) We note that the quoted text is incomplete. Would you like to include
the full sentence for context?

Original: 
   "Consequently, an application SHOULD either use the path MTU
   information provided by the IP layer or implement Path MTU Discovery
   (PMTUD)".

In Section 3.2 of [RFC8085]:
   Consequently, an application SHOULD either use the path MTU
   information provided by the IP layer or implement Path MTU Discovery
   (PMTUD) itself [RFC1191] [RFC1981] [RFC4821] to determine whether the
   path to a destination will support its desired message size without
   fragmentation.

b) We have marked the text as a block quote.  It currently appears as 
follows: 

   |  Consequently, an application SHOULD either use the path MTU
   |  information provided by the IP layer or implement Path MTU
   |  Discovery (PMTUD) ...
-->


3) <!--[rfced] To improve readability, may we update the parenthetical text
as follows?

Original:
   When DPLPMTUD is implemented within the UDP transport service, the
   DPLPMTUD state machine is responsible for sending probe packets to
   determine a PLPMTU, as described in this document (and hence the
   Maximum Packet Size (MPS), the largest size of application data block
   that can be sent across a network path using a single datagram).

Perhaps:
   When DPLPMTUD is implemented within the UDP transport service, the
   DPLPMTUD state machine is responsible for sending probe packets to
   determine a PLPMTU, as described in this document (hence, the
   Maximum Packet Size (MPS), the largest size of application data block
   that can be sent across a network path using a single datagram, is 
   used).
-->


4) <!--[rfced] To improve readability, may we rephrase the latter part of
this sentence?

Original:
   [RFC8899] requires a probe packet to elicit a positive
   acknowledgement that the path has delivered a datagram of the
   specific probed size and, therefore, when using
   [I-D.ietf-tsvwg-udp-options] a probe packet MUST include the REQ
   Option.

Perhaps:
   [RFC8899] requires a probe packet to elicit a positive
   acknowledgement that the path has delivered a datagram of the
   specific probed size; therefore, a probe packet MUST include the REQ
   Option when using transport options for UDP [RFC9868].
-->


5) <!--[rfced] To clarify the citations and parenthetical text, may we 
update this sentence as follows?

Original:
   This validation
   sends probe packets in the DPLPMTUD SEARCH_COMPLETE state to detect
   black-holing of data (Section 5.2 of [RFC8899], Section 4.3 of
   [RFC8899] defines a DPLPMTUD black-hole).

Perhaps A:
   This validation
   sends probe packets in the DPLPMTUD SEARCH_COMPLETE state to detect
   black-holing of data (see Section 5.2 of [RFC8899]); Section 4.3 of
   [RFC8899] defines a DPLPMTUD black hole).

Perhaps B:
   This validation
   sends probe packets in the DPLPMTUD SEARCH_COMPLETE state (Section 5.2 
   of [RFC8899]) to detect black-holing of data (Section 4.3 of
   [RFC8899] defines a DPLPMTUD black-hole).
-->


6) <!--[rfced] As the same citation occurs twice in the same sentence, may 
we make this more concise?

Original:
   A probe packet used to validate the path MAY use either
   "Probing using padding data" to construct a probe packet that does
   not carry any application data (Section 4.1 of [RFC8899]) or "Probing
   using application data and padding data", see Section 4.1 of
   [RFC8899].

Perhaps:
   A probe packet used to validate the path MAY use either
   "Probing using padding data" to construct a probe packet that does
   not carry any application data or "Probing using application data and
   padding data"; see Section 4.1 of [RFC8899].
-->   


7) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document
should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for 
content that is semantically less important or tangential to the 
content that surrounds it" 
(https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside).
-->


8) <!-- [rfced] We note that this document uses "UDP Options", while RFC-to-be 
9868 <draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options> uses "UDP options" (lowercase).  Please 
review and let us know if these should be made consistent.  Perhaps lowercase 
for "UDP options" in general, but "Option" when referring to a specific option 
(e.g., Response (RES) Option). 

See <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9868.html>. 
-->


9) <!--[rfced] Abbreviations

a) Both the expansion and the acronym for the following terms are used
throughout the document. Would you like to update to using the expansion
upon first usage and the acronym for the rest of the document

 Maximum Packet Size (MPS)
 "minimum configured PLPMTU (MIN_PLPMTU)


b) To align with RFC 8899, we have updated the following abbreviations for 
consistency.  Please let us know any objections. 

  Datagram Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery (DPLPMTUD) 
  Path MTU Discovery (PMTUD) 
-->


10) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the 
online Style Guide 
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.

For example, please consider whether "black hole" should be updated.
-->


Thank you.

Alanna Paloma and Sandy Ginoza
RFC Production Center



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RFC 9869 (draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options-dplpmtud-15)

Title            : Datagram PLPMTUD for UDP Options
Author(s)        : G. Fairhurst, T. Jones
WG Chair(s)      : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker

Area Director(s) : Gorry Fairhurst, Mike Bishop


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