Approve.

Thank you for all of the work in progressing this draft.

mike

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 1:49 PM Kaelin Foody <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Changwang,
>
> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the document accordingly.
>
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> Thank you,
>
> Kaelin Foody
> RFC Production Center
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>
> > On Sep 16, 2025, at 11:44 AM, linchangwang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi  Kaelin  &  Alanna,
> >
> > Thanks for your help with this document.
> > Please check inline below for responses.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Changwang (on behalf of co-authors)
> >
> >
> >
> > 发件人: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > 发送时间: 2025年9月16日 5:57
> > 收件人: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; linchangwang (RD) <
> [email protected]>
> > 抄送: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> > 主题: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9860 <draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-14> for your
> review
> >
> >
> > Authors,
> >
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source file.
> >
> > 1) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized or left
> in their current order? -->
> >
> >   Changwang > I would like it alphabetized.
> >
> >
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> >
> >  Changwang > PIM、MoFRR、LFA、TI-LFA、SR-MPLS、SRv6、RPF Vector、Join attribute
> >
> > 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, should "the Join" be updated to "the Join
> packet"?
> >
> > Original:
> >   If the nodes do not understand
> >   the RPF Vector attribute in the PIM Join packet, then it must discard
> >   the RPF Vector attribute because failing to remove the RPF Vectors
> >   could cause upstream nodes to send the Join back toward these nodes
> >   causing loops.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   If the nodes do not understand
> >   the RPF Vector Attribute in the PIM Join packet, then they must discard
> >   the RPF Vector Attribute because failing to remove the RPF Vectors
> >   could cause upstream nodes to send the Join packet back toward these
> nodes
> >   causing loops.
> > -->
> >    Changwang > Ack
> >
> >
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] To avoid using an RFC as an adjective, may we update the
> instances of "[RFC7431] MoFRR" in the text below as follows?
> >
> > Original:
> >   However, the [RFC7431] MoFRR mechanism, which selects the secondary
> >   multicast next-hop based solely on the loop-free alternate fast
> >   reroute defined in [RFC7431], has limitations in certain multicast
> >   deployment scenarios (see Section 2).
> >   ...
> >   Consequently, the [RFC7431] MoFRR functionality in PIM is applicable
> >   only in network topologies where LFA is feasible.
> >   ...
> >   The limitations of the [RFC7431] MoFRR applicability can be
> >   illustrated using the example network depicted in Figure 1.
> >   ...
> >   In this scenario, the [RFC7431] MoFRR operates effectively.
> >   ...
> >   In this case, the [RFC7431] MoFRR cannot calculate a secondary UMH.
> >   Similarly, for multicast source S3 and receiver R, the [RFC7431] MoFRR
> >   mechanism is ineffective.
> >   ...
> >   For instance, in the network illustrated in Figure 1, the secondary
> >   path for the PIM Join packet towards multicast source S2 cannot be
> >   computed by [RFC7431] MoFRR, as previously described.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   However, the MoFRR mechanism [RFC7431], which selects the secondary...
> >   ...
> >   Consequently, the MoFRR functionality [RFC7431] in PIM is applicable...
> >   ...
> >   The limitations of the MoFRR applicability [RFC7431] can be
> illustrated...
> >   ...
> >   In this scenario, MoFRR [RFC7431] operates effectively.
> >   ...
> >   In this case, MoFRR [RFC7431] cannot calculate a secondary UMH.
> >   Similarly, for multicast source S3 and receiver R, the MoFRR
> >   mechanism [RFC7431] is ineffective.
> >   ...
> >   For instance, in the network illustrated in Figure 1, the secondary
> >   path for the PIM Join packet towards multicast source S2 cannot be
> >   computed by MoFRR [RFC7431], as previously described.
> > -->
> >   Changwang > Ack
> >
> > 5) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terminology appears to be
> used inconsistently throughout the document. Please review these
> occurrences and let us know if/how they may be made consistent.
> >
> > Node SID vs. NodeSID
> > Segment List vs. segment list
> > -->
> > Changwang > Use  "Node SID"  and  " segment list ".
> >
> >
> > 6) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon
> first use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review
> each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> >
> > Reverse Path Forwarding (RPF)
> > Remote LFA (RLFA)
> > PIM - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM)
> > -->
> >  Changwang > ACK
> >
> >
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> online Style Guide <
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> > and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> >
> > a) For example, please consider whether "native" should be updated in
> the text
> > below:
> >
> >   This mechanism is applicable to PIM networks, including cases where PIM
> >   operates natively over IP in Segment Routing (SR) networks.
> >
> > -->
> > Changwang> This mechanism is applicable to PIM networks, including cases
> where PIM
> >   operates directly over IP in Segment Routing (SR) networks.
> >
> >
> > b) In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated
> for clarity.
> > While the NIST website
> > <
> https://web.archive.org/web/20250214092458/https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1
> >
> > indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
> > "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone:
> >
> >   However, the traditional LFA does not function properly for the
> secondary
> >   path because the shortest path to R2 from R5 (or from R4) still
> traverses
> >   the R6-R2 link.
> > -->
> >
> >   Changwang >  However, the conventional LFA does not function properly
> for the secondary
> >   path because the shortest path to R2 from R5 (or from R4) still
> traverses
> >   the R6-R2 link.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Kaelin Foody and Alanna Paloma
> > RFC Production Center
> >
> >
> > On Sep 15, 2025, at 2:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
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> > RFC9860 (draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-14)
> >
> > Title            : Multicast-only Fast Reroute Based on Topology
> Independent Loop-free Alternate (TI-LFA) Fast Reroute
> > Author(s)        : Y. Liu, M. McBride, Z. Zhang, J. Xie, C. Lin
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