I approve. Thanks Gautam
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 9:53 AM Carroll, William <[email protected]> wrote: > I approve. > > Thanks! > William Carroll > > On 9/24/25, 12:16 PM, "Alanna Paloma" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > Hi Scott, > > > Thank you for your reply. 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Note that we do not make changes once a document is > published as an RFC. > > > We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page > below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process. > > > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1kP-q3wtNm948keKdV4alCkAfdoKuVbnQL-6SOuuTH7KcOfka-so1TAVQQLJ4Skmp5FmL8Zgh2LNj49efbUE2bmZjUZ95ztGH_G8pN5pZUFtA2dnK4fOJnZchdwCZ-dNKZm6IEkMSwb5PXD9wSyrV7xfrHxV8Cvodhf514wtXwz1a04D16qS5X171wS88faYTvoE9GpIuao8GwCbipuER8RsVRDE8DGw9IsHLeoN50-0ugYcIypfpwYOouXxhjA4JbE8o610gyY6EGfEcrVJYwIhXkUqHrKrsYPP9xHfteGA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9874 > < > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1kP-q3wtNm948keKdV4alCkAfdoKuVbnQL-6SOuuTH7KcOfka-so1TAVQQLJ4Skmp5FmL8Zgh2LNj49efbUE2bmZjUZ95ztGH_G8pN5pZUFtA2dnK4fOJnZchdwCZ-dNKZm6IEkMSwb5PXD9wSyrV7xfrHxV8Cvodhf514wtXwz1a04D16qS5X171wS88faYTvoE9GpIuao8GwCbipuER8RsVRDE8DGw9IsHLeoN50-0ugYcIypfpwYOouXxhjA4JbE8o610gyY6EGfEcrVJYwIhXkUqHrKrsYPP9xHfteGA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauth48%2Frfc9874 > > > > > Thank you, > Alanna Paloma > RFC Production Center > > > > On Sep 23, 2025, at 9:27 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck= > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> < > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2025 1:26 AM > >> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>>; Carroll, William > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>; > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9874 > >> <draft-ietf-regext-epp-delete- > >> bcp-10> for your review > >> > >> Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not > click > >> links > >> or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is > >> safe. > >> > >> Authors, > >> > >> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > necessary) > >> the following questions, which are also in the source file. > > > > [SAH] We've noted our responses below. In addition, we've found one term > that's used in the text that requires an additional sentence for > clarification. We've already discussed the topic with Orie (cc'd here), and > he's approved our approach to adding a clarification to the text in Section > 5. > > > > OLD > > Notably, the scope of any practice discussed here is the EPP server that > adopts the practice and the domains managed by it. > > > > NEW > > Notably, the scope of any practice discussed here is the EPP server that > adopts the practice, the domains managed by it, and the associated host > objects where "associated" is described in RFCs 5731 [RFC5731] and 5732 > [RFC5732]. > > > >> 1) <!--[rfced] This document has been assigned a new BCP number. > >> Please let us know if this is not correct (i.e., it should be part of > an > >> existing > >> BCP). > >> > >> See the complete list of BCPs here: > >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ronHlStzrkPTBidwHiueJ0APXes- < > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ronHlStzrkPTBidwHiueJ0APXes-> > >> JyLb_dBGHiEBdouxvSEF3wsn6jC3V4DvPr1VhLhhmMtJ3PrSfqL4D1UWipGqCuX7I > >> 39p4_j44l207oCjAyU89hiCwVaFSc0p240fujlWKdNUEvGwVfq_ajLa7iv1seDnOQ6e > >> qr_JXbQbRGq2tgVkIbPQ7UOk0E_ahr9cbqPEundX3WkSEMpW_kBkjtB17xI35eaE > >> uQwK25lRO5DfaaLfj4EzXud5tFWHUBHdfa- > >> R0oCzlVaYWhRVjnLJ1blksuw72gt0t2LF1VqTKfk/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc- > >> editor.org%2Fbcps > >> --> > > > > [SAH] This is correct. A new BCP number should be assigned. > > > >> 2) <!--[rfced] We note that Scott Hollenbeck and William Carroll have > the > >> same > >> authors' address listed. However, Scott's organization is listed as > >> "Verisign Labs", > >> while William's is "Verisign". Should these be made consistent in the > >> following > >> and the document header? > >> > >> Scott Hollenbeck > >> Verisign Labs > >> 12061 Bluemont Way > >> Reston, VA 20190 > >> United States of America > >> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> URI: https://secure- > >> web.cisco.com/1lym9v5MxG01dIeXO4nDizhfNw4aZYvxr5Yh2KEWudPWvPviy- > >> F4S2kDdzwSRDDnORgAAeCwsE- > >> HYoDEj3QkF6YU91pIOMAkWxJdkQMKXvTmiUfhx67ZQTrYEpO_4ss9XK4n7RaybL > >> T8diXMcVmImU8u6x5qFtiZSb5Zl6wwsPsLN5bGezyF5zimFvxjZA5xtWKzxS2Fekf- > >> wFq2dqWbVh1OEkMpeKIohu6M4VRAcxy80ZRXFPIDFVQd17bFfkc00R6qA2j1CKd > >> L5wS-i8SeJjvtWRA-wbKTAm_SSnLyjPENwvT_l2hH7iY9ueBE3c46- > >> /https%3A%2F%2Fwww.verisignlabs.com%2F > >> > >> > >> William Carroll > >> Verisign > >> 12061 Bluemont Way > >> Reston, VA 20190 > >> United States of America > >> Phone: +1 703 948-3200 > >> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> URI: https://verisign.com <https://verisign.com> > >> --> > > > > [SAH] Yes, please use Verisign Labs for both. > > > >> 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we add citations to [RFC5731] and > [RFC5732] > >> in > >> this sentence? > >> > >> Original: > >> This document describes the rationale for the "SHOULD NOT be deleted" > >> text and the risk associated with host object renaming. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> This document describes the rationale for the "SHOULD NOT be deleted" > >> text in [RFC5731] and [RFC5732] as well as the risk associated with > >> host object renaming. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] Sure, that's fine. > > > >> 4) <!-- [rfced] FYI - Some sentences cite RFCs 5731 and 5732 but did > not > >> include > >> cite tags. We have added cite tags to these citations. For example: > >> > >> Original: > >> The text in RFCs 5731 and 5732 was written to > >> encourage clients to take singular, discrete steps to delete objects > >> in a way that avoids breaking DNS resolution functionality. > >> > >> Current: > >> The text in [RFC5731] and [RFC5732] was written to > >> encourage clients to take singular, discrete steps to delete objects > >> in a way that avoids breaking DNS resolution functionality. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] That's fine. > > > >> 5) <!--[rfced] To improve readability, may we update "as can" to "which > can" > >> below? > >> > >> Original: > >> Implementations of EPP can have dependencies on the hierarchical > >> domain object/host object relationship, as can exist in a relational > >> database. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> Implementations of EPP can have dependencies on the hierarchical > >> domain object/host object relationship, which can exist in a relational > >> database. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] That's fine. > > > >> 6) <!-- [rfced] We note that [RFC7535] uses "EMPTY.AS112.ARPA" rather > than > >> "empty.as112.arpa". Should this be updated to match [RFC7535]? > >> > >> Current: > >> "empty.as112.arpa" is designed to be used with DNAME aliasing, not > >> as a parent domain for sacrificial name servers (see Section 3 of > >> [RFC7535]). > >> --> > > > > [SAH] Yes, please use uppercase characters. > > > >> 7) <!--[rfced] Does "removed from the zone" apply to both "domains with > no > >> remaining name servers" and "domains with only one remaining name > server"? > >> If yes, may we update this sentence as follows? Note that this sentence > >> occurs > >> in Sections 5.2.1.1.2 and 5.2.2.1.2. > >> > >> Original: > >> This could result in domains with no remaining name servers being > >> removed from the zone or domains with only one remaining name server. > >> > >> Perhaps: > >> This could result in domains with no remaining name servers or > >> with only one remaining name server being removed from the zone. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] We'd prefer something like this: > > > > "This could result in domains with no name servers being removed from > the zone > > or domains with only one name server remaining in the zone." > > > >> 8) <!-- [rfced] Informative reference RFC 8499 has been obsoleted by > RFC > >> 9499. > >> May we update the reference to point to RFC 9499? We note that > "NXDOMAIN" > >> is mentioned in RFC 9499. > >> > >> RFC 8499 is cited in the text as follows: > >> Requests to the root for this domain would result > >> in NXDOMAIN response [RFC8499]. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] Yes, that's fine. > > > >> 9) <!--[rfced] FYI - We have alphabetized the names listed in the > >> Acknowledgments section. We believe that was the intent as only one was > out > >> of order. Let us know if you prefer the original order. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] That change is fine. > > > >> 10) <!--[rfced] FYI - As both "nameserver" and "name server" were used > >> throughout the document. We have updated all instances to "name server" > >> for consistency. Please review and let us know of any objections. > >> --> > > > > [SAH] That's fine. > > > >> 11) <!--[rfced] FYI - We have added an expansion for the following > >> abbreviation per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please > review > >> each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness. > >> > >> Top-Level Domain (TLD) > >> --> > > > > [SAH] That's fine. > > > >> 12) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the > >> online Style Guide <https://secure- > >> web.cisco.com/1SkvcGcLm7rHlDGJeQZxcpRT54XiBPIq-Oqx5h7- > >> qRg4O9nPsnGqiyMqmH- > >> rKQBq4nIXXFLxhvTkvkkZLe540tVqQB4p7wC3MFE7v31khFUWS9Oer5ejV9N- > >> 8LRYEtciO2SjvDf9O40-9QMUe_T- > >> 2KFhOVFL5FS_mCXnLAyO8ubttjPUlzYQKrQ_s3VZsbKwtTWqKzSSRhgJLmko7ipCX0 > >> CZ5Ipol7QzPLs9hXdCsoTvRgGOPFMynO70OSH5HPy- > >> EMj8muo7qdjpJ3dPb3VbgWmUJGvJqCZF7JRBa2nq4ocE/https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > >> rfc-editor.org%2Fstyleguide%2Fpart2%2F%23inclusive_language> > >> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature > >> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers. > >> > >> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this > should > >> still be reviewed as a best practice. > >> --> > > > > All good - thanks! > > > > Scott > > > > > >
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