Warren approves of all 3 documents in [C544]:
draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8624-bis-13.txt
draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-sha1-10.txt
draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-ecc-gost-07.txt

Thank you very much!
W


On Wed, Nov 05, 2025 at 8:19 PM, Karen Moore <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Wes,
>
> We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page (https://www.
> rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9904). We now require Warren’s approval prior to
> moving forward with publication.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Karen Moore
> RFC Production Center
>
> On Nov 5, 2025, at 2:34 PM, Wes Hardaker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Karen Moore <[email protected]> writes:
>
> We have updated the reference entry for "[DS-IANA]” to reflect the direct
> registry name. Please review and let us know if any further updates are
> needed or if you approve the document in its current form. Once we receive
> approvals, we will ask IANA to update the notes in the registries to match
> the edited document.
>
> Thank you. I think with that final change we're good.
> --
> Wes Hardaker
> Google
>
> On Nov 5, 2025, at 11:30 AM, Karen Moore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Wes and Warren,
>
> We have updated the reference entry for "[DS-IANA]” to reflect the direct
> registry name. Please review and let us know if any further updates are
> needed or if you approve the document in its current form. Once we receive
> approvals, we will ask IANA to update the notes in the registries to match
> the edited document.
>
> —Files (please refresh)—
>
> Updated XML file:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.xml
>
> Updated output files:
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> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.pdf
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.html
>
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>
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>
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: https://www.
> rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9904
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karen Moore
> RFC Production Center
>
> On Nov 5, 2025, at 3:17 AM, Wes Hardaker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Karen Moore <[email protected]> writes:
>
> 2) We note that in the Normative References section, [DNSKEY-IANA] lists
> the direct registry name and [DS-IANA] lists the top registry name. Should
> [DS-IANA] list the direct registry name for consistency?
>
> I think that is best yes. It had to be done for DNSKEY-IANA since there
> are two sub-registries within that page and we needed to refer to only the
> first. DS-IANA didn't need to be as specific, so we used the more
> descriptive (IMHO) longer name.
>
> But, you're right that consistency is probably better. Thanks for the
> suggestion and the switch.
> --
> Wes Hardaker
> Google
>
> On Nov 4, 2025, at 1:57 PM, Karen Moore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Warren and Wes,
>
> Thank you for your replies (and Wes, thank you for stopping by the RFC
> Editor desk at IETF 124!). We have updated our files accordingly. We have
> an additional clarification and question.
>
> 1) Thanks for the clarifications regarding Tables 2 and 3. The only
> changes we made were to Table 2 - we updated values 17, 23, 252, and 254 to
> reflect the mnemonic names.
>
> 2) We note that in the Normative References section, [DNSKEY-IANA] lists
> the direct registry name and [DS-IANA] lists the top registry name. Should
> [DS-IANA] list the direct registry name for consistency?
>
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> Updated XML file:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.xml
>
> Updated output files:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.txt
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.pdf
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904.html
>
> Diff files showing all changes made during AUTH48: https://www.rfc-editor.
> org/authors/rfc9904-auth48diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/
> rfc9904-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>
> Diff files showing all changes:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904-diff.html https://www.
> rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9904-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: https://www.
> rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9904
>
> Best regards,
>
> Karen Moore
> RFC Production Center
>
> On Nov 4, 2025, at 8:02 AM, Wes Hardaker via auth48archive <auth48archive@
> rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>
> Warren Kumari <[email protected]> writes:
>
> I'm following up with some additional comments but any items I didn't
> respond to I agreed with Warren (which was generally: good suggestions and
> thank you).
>
> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> -->
>
> DNS, rollover, agility
>
> Again, add DNSSEC too please.
>
> Also, please clarify "incremental update RFCs". Is the intended meaning
> that future extensions can be made under new, incremental RFCs that update
> this document?
>
> TBD
>
> Yes, and since that's common terminology maybe just "future RFCs" instead
> and we'll just stop trying to add "incremental" as it's confusing and
> doesn't really help anyway.
>
> 8) <!--[rfced] Section 3. Since there are multiple registries under the
> "Domain Name System Security (DNSSEC) Algorithm Numbers" registry group,
> we added the registry name for clarity as shown below.
>
> [...]
>
> Perhaps A:
> Initial values for the use and implementation recommendation columns in
> the "DNS Security Algorithm Numbers" registry under the "Domain Name System
> Security (DNSSEC) Algorithm Numbers" registry group are shown in Table 2.
>
> Either is fine with me - whatever y'all and my co-author think….
>
> I think A is a bit clearer IMHO. Thanks!
>
> 10) <!--[rfced] Questions about Table 2
>
> a) In Table 2, some of the values in the "Use for" and
> "Implement for" columns are different than what is listed in "DNS Security
> Algorithm Numbers" registry (specifically, see numbers 5, 7, and 12).
> Should Table 2 be updated to match the IANA registry as shown below, or
> should the IANA registry be updated to match Table 2?
>
> The IANA Registry should be updated (which kicked this off); my co-author
> and I will discuss….
>
> So these ended up becoming different because we added more columns in the
> long run than was originally specified.
>
> b) In Table 2, numbers 17, 23, 253, and 254 use terms from the Description
> column in the registry whereas the rest of the numbers use terms from the
> Mnemonic column.
>
> Agreed, we should be consistent and mnemonic values should be used.
>
> 12) <!--[rfced] We note differences between Table 3 and the "Digest
> Algorithms" registry. Should this document be updated to match the registry
> as shown below, or should the registry be updated to match this document?
>
> So I believe that the confusion here is that:
>
> 1. this document defines the values at the time the RFC is to be
> published, but the other two related documents immediately change the
> values to more restrictive. Hence, for example, the MUST NOT values for
> GOST in the current table exist because IANA has already taken the actions
> defined in these algorithms. So in steps they:
>
> 1. took the values from this document (rfc8624-bis-13) and made columns
> for them.
>
> THEN
>
> 2. took the values from the must-not-gost document and applied the new
> values.
>
> Thus, the values in the original table are correct because they document
> what existed before any of the tables changed as a result of all our
> documents. So the history is properly preserved by leaving our values in
> the bis document the same, as it's the later must-not-gost and
> must-not-sha1 documents that create the new values that have already been
> placed into the document.
>
> Clear as mud?
>
> In other words:
>
> Perhaps (to match the IANA registry):
>
> 0 Reserved MUST NOT | MUST NOT | MUST NOT | MUST NOT
>
> 3 GOST R
> 34.11-94 MUST NOT | MUST NOT | MUST NOT | MUST NOT
>
> This is wrong, because those values come from a later-numbered RFC that
> changes the values to MUST NOT from the values in this table.
>
> 15) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We have added an expansion for the following
> abbreviation per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review
> this and each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
>
> DNS Public Key (DNSKEY)
> -->
>
> Huh. Yes, that looks right — in my brain it is just "DNS Key", but RFC
> 4034, etc show you to be correct.
>
> Yep, DNSKEY is correct. thanks.
>
> --
> Wes Hardaker
> Google
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