Approved point #1.

Jim

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Subject: Re: [AD] [C541] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs-to-be 9892-9895

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 5:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Authors and AD*,
>
> *AD, please see #1 below.
>
> Authors, while reviewing this cluster of documents*, please reply to
> the questions below regarding consistency across the cluster. These
> questions are in addition to the document-specific questions sent
> for each RFC-to-be. Your reply will likely impact two or more of the
> documents in the cluster, so please discuss off-list as necessary,
> and then let us know how to proceed. Note - You have the option of
> updating the edited XML files yourself, if you prefer.  We will wait
> to hear from you before continuing with the publication process.
>
> * Cluster 541 (C541) currently in AUTH48 state:
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>
> 1) *AD - We are sorry to hear of the passing of David Wiggins and
> Stan Ratliff. David is listed as an author for RFCs-to-be 9892,
> 9893, 9894, and 9895 (all documents in the cluster). Stan is listed
> as an author for RFC-to-be 9893.
>
> As AD, please confirm that you will approve the documents on behalf
> of David and Stan. (Note: Any of the three options at
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>  are acceptable.)
>
> 2) FYI - We updated "DiffServ" to "Diffserv" throughout the cluster
> per 
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>  If no
> objections, we will ask IANA to update the following descriptions
> prior to publication.

> Link to registry group: 
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>
> "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" registry
> (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification):
>
> OLD:
>  DiffServ Traffic Classification
>
> NEW:
>  Diffserv Traffic Classification
>
> "Extension Type Values" registry (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension):
>
> OLD:
>   DiffServ Aware Credit Window
>
> NEW:
>   Diffserv Aware Credit Window

I think these updates to only an initial captial letter are fine and
result in conformance to RFC Editor defaults.

> 3) We see "Credit window control" (beginning of sentence, so the "C" is
> capitalized) but "credit-window scheme". We suggest updating to "credit window
> scheme" (no hyphen).

OK with me.

> 4) Do "credit window control" (approx. 24 instances in cluster) and "credit
> window flow control" (3 instances in cluster) mean the same thing?  Will the
> interchangeable usage of these terms - or the distinction between the two -
> be clear to readers?

Yes, I would say they mean the same thing in these documents. "credit
window flow control" is just a more complete term and if there are
seveal uses in the same paragraph or the like, it is reasonable to use
the more complete term initially and the shortened term subsequently.

> 5) We see both "Type Value" and "Type value" in running text. Which
> form is preferred?
>
> Some examples:
> "Message Type value" in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control
>
> "DLEP Extension Type Value" in
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension and
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension
>
> "DiffServ Aware Credit Window Type Value" in
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension
>
> "IEEE 802.1Q Aware Credit Window Type Value" in
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension

I am inclined to capitalize Value.

> 6) 'Rick Taylor's "Data Item Containers"' is only mentioned in the
> Acknowledgments sections of two of the four documents in this group
> (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification and
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension).  Would you like to add the
> applicable sentence to the Acknowledgments sections of
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and
> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension as well?

Yes, I think it would be reasonable and consistant to add that
sentence to the Acknowledgements sections of the other two
drafts. They all mention Data Items.

Thanks,
Donald
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>
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