Thank you all for the comments/review. I agree that the change 0x0000 isn't really needed or helpful. That said it is the same as a simple 0, so I can live with it being either way.
Thanks, Lou ---------- On November 25, 2025 1:32:56 PM Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Donald. We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9895 Thank you very much for your help with this document and RFC-to-be 9894! Lynne Bartholomew RFC Production Center On Nov 25, 2025, at 9:52 AM, Donald Eastlake <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Lynne, I have reviewed this rfc-to-be and approve publication. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA [email protected] On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 12:06 PM Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Donald. Apologies for the delayed reply. We have updated Section 3 per your note below. We'll update RFC-to-be 9894 shortly and will ask the authors of RFC-to-be 9892 if they would like to update the "VLAN Identifier (VID):" definition per your note. The latest files are posted here. 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We have updated this document as well, per your notes below. Regarding your second update note from further below: Section 3, 3rd paragraph, 2nd sentence, seems a bit incomplete and fuzzy. I believe the following is clearer. OLD VID value zero (0) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that the VID is ignored and any other VID value is used in traffic classification. NEW VID value zero (0x0000) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFFF is reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be used in traffic classification. We are having trouble parsing the "NEW" text. Does it mean VID value zero (0x0000) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that (1) the VID is ignored and (2) VID 0xFFFF is reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be used in traffic classification. or VID value zero (0x0000) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that the VID is ignored. VID 0xFFFF is reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be used in traffic classification. ? Seems like the latter, but please advise. Yes, you are correct. It is the latter. = = = = = A couple more follow-up questions: 1. Should "composed of" be changed to "built on" in RFC-to-be 9894 as well, as was done per your first note further below for this document? From the latest rfc9894.txt: The extension defined in this document is composed of the mechanisms Yes, I think the change should be made in RFC-to-be 9894 as well. 2. In companion document RFC-to-be 9892, should we ask the authors if the "zero (0)" in the following paragraph should be updated to list the hex value 0x0000, as was done per your second update note (further below) for this document? We ask because we see two instances of "The value 0xFFFF is reserved" in RFC-to-be 9892: VLAN Identifier (VID): A 12-bit unsigned integer field indicating the VLAN to be used in traffic classification. A value of zero (0) indicates that the VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic classification. Any explicitly mapped VLANs are matched first. Any VLANs that do not have a mapping will then map to this default mapping. Well, I don't think the two occurrences of 0xFFFF in this document have anything to do with this because they refer to the FID, not the VID. However, I think the full change to this text that I suggested for this (except the self-referential reference to 9892) would be good so OLD A value of zero (0) indicates that the VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic classification. NEW VID value zero (0x0000) is used by to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFFF is reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be used in traffic classification. Perhaps you should suggest the above to the authors. Actually, use of "(0)" is not wrong, it's just that it seems much more consistent for all the VIDs (VLAN IDs) to be given in the same hex format. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA [email protected] = = = = = The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895.pdf https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895.xml https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-rfcdiff.html (side by side) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-auth48diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-xmldiff1.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895-xmldiff2.html Thanks again for your attentiveness to these documents! Lynne Bartholomew RFC Production Center On Nov 16, 2025, at 8:18 PM, Donald Eastlake <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 5:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote: Authors, While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source file. 1) <!-- [rfced] Document title: FYI, for ease of the reader and per our process, we expanded "DLEP" in the title. Please review. Original: DLEP IEEE 802.1Q Aware Credit Window Extension Currently: Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) IEEE 802.1Q Aware Credit Window Extension --> OK. 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the title) for use on <https://www.rfc-editor.org/search>. --> I don't know of any added keywords. 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Are one or more words missing from this sentence? If neither suggestion below is correct, please clarify what is shared. 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You may submit your changes in one of two ways: An update to the provided XML file — OR — An explicit list of changes in this format Section # (or indicate Global) Section 2, first stentence. Saying "composed of" makes it sound like its all in RFCs 9892 and 9893 with nothing added by this document. Suggest the following: OLD The extension defined in this document is composed of the mechanisms and processing defined in [RFC9892] and [RFC9893]. NEW The extension defined in this document is built on the mechanisms and processing defined in [RFC9892] and [RFC9893]. Section 3, 3rd paragraph, 2nd sentence, seems a bit incomplete and fuzzy. I believe the following is clearer. OLD VID value zero (0) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that the VID is ignored and any other VID value is used in traffic classification. NEW VID value zero (0x0000) is used by [RFC9892] to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFFF is reserved. 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