Hi, Jim.  So noted:

   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892

Thank you!

Lynne Bartholomew
RFC Production Center

> On Dec 2, 2025, at 9:07 AM, James Guichard <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Update looks okay for me. Approved.
> 
> Jim
> 
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> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>; James Guichard 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger <[email protected]>; 
> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
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> Subject: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review   Hi, Don 
> and *AD (Jim).
> 
> * Jim, please review the updates to the "VLAN Identifier (VID):" paragraph in 
> Section 2.3, and let us know if you approve.  We ask for your approval 
> because the updates could be considered "beyond editorial".
> 
> 
> Don, no worries, and we hope that you had a good holiday weekend.
> 
> We have made further updates to this document per your notes below, but we 
> still have one more question for you; apologies for missing this one earlier. 
>  Should the following be made consistent?
> 
> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Item /
> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Items
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> Lynne Bartholomew
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> 
> > On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:23 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Lynn
> > 
> > Sorry for the delay, short work week last week. 
> > 
> > Inline [Don]
> > 
> > Thank You,
> > Don 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 12:46 PM
> > To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou 
> > Berger <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > <[email protected]>; [email protected]<[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
> > <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
> > 
> > Hi, Don, Bow-Nan, and Lou.
> > 
> > Don, thank you for your reply.
> > 
> > Regarding this reply from you:  We changed "the maximum Length for the  
> > based on" to "the maximum Length based on".  Please let us know if some 
> > other words were missing that should be added.
> > 
> > > [Don]  I believe - checking my math again that this length is on a per 
> > > Traiffic Identifier basis.
> > > If every FID was mapped to an explicit DSCP the length would be (2+1+1) * 
> > > 64 = 256.
> > >
> > > NEW  "under DiffServ Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item"
> > >  This
> > >  means that the maximum Length for the  based on a single DSCP per FID 
> > > for this TLV
> > >  could be 64 times two ( FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus one octet for 
> > > a single DSCP
> > > or 256  octets.
> > >
> > > " Think the error was using 3 instead of 2 and resulting in counting the 
> > > Num DSCPs twice" 
> > 
> > 
> > Regarding our question 18)b) and your reply:
> > 
> > Which form is preferred for consistency in this document -- priority field, 
> > Priority field, or Priority Field?
> > 
> > [Don] Priority Field 
> > 
> > Same question for these two; which form is preferred?
> > 
> >  Item Types / Item types
> > 
> > Item Types  (used in RFC 8175) 
> > 
> > 
> >  Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
> > 
> > [Don] Ahh,  Ascii Art limited us to NumPCPs  I would use that everywhere to 
> > make it consistent. 
> > 
> > >> >> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
> > >> >> document.  Please let us know which form is preferred.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>  priority field / Priority field / Priority Field
> > >> >>   (e.g., "priority fields", "Priority fields",
> > >> >>   "Each Priority Field is", "each Priority field is")
> > >> >>
> > >> >>  Item Types / Item types (e.g., "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item
> > >> >>    Types", "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item types")
> > >> >>
> > >> >>  Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
> > >> >>    (We also see "Num DSCPs" and "Num SDIs".)
> > >> >>  the individual Sub-Data Item / the individual Sub-Data Items -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Good Thanks.
> > >
> > 
> > = = = = =
> > 
> > Would you like to make this update, mentioned by Donald Eastlake in 
> > relation to RFC-to-be 9895?  Please read his entire reply (i.e., that 
> > nothing is wrong but that consistency might be good).
> > 
> > [Don] The VID in this douement is 12bits.  The largest it can be is 0xFFE.  
> > Therefore the value of 0x000 would be the corresponing representation but 
> > not used much. I don't see a problem with zero(0) in this case but when I 
> > maeked up up I guess 0x000 is more consistent..  As far as the reserved 
> > values those are inherited from IEEE 802.1Q. 
> > See mark up below. [Don]   
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Our question for Donald:
> > 
> > >> 2. In companion document RFC-to-be 9892, should we ask the authors
> > >> if the "zero (0)" in the following paragraph should be updated to
> > >> list the hex value 0x0000, as was done per your second update note
> > >> (further below) for this document?  We ask because we see two
> > >> instances of "The value 0xFFFF is reserved" in RFC-to-be 9892:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> VLAN Identifier (VID):
> > >>     A 12-bit unsigned integer field indicating the VLAN to be used in
> > >>     traffic classification.  A value of zero (0) indicates that the
> > >>     VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic
> > >>     classification.  Any explicitly mapped VLANs are matched first.
> > >>     Any VLANs that do not have a mapping will then map to this default
> > >>     mapping.
> > 
> > Donald's reply:
> > 
> > > Well, I don't think the two occurrences of 0xFFFF in this document
> > > have anything to do with this because they refer to the FID, not the
> > > VID. However, I think the full change to this text that I suggested
> > > for this (except the self-referential reference to 9892) would be good
> > > so
> > >
> > > OLD
> > >      A value of zero (0) indicates that the
> > >   VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic
> > >   classification.
> > > NEW
> > >      VID value zero (0x0000) is used
> > >   to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFFF is
> > >   reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be
> > >   used in traffic classification.
> > [Don] 
> > NEW
> > >   VID value zero (0x000) is used
> > >   to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFF is reserved.
> > >   Any other VID value from 0x001 through 0xFFE can be
> > >   used in traffic classification. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Perhaps you should suggest the above to the authors.
> > >
> > > Actually, use of "(0)" is not wrong, it's just that it seems much more
> > > consistent for all the VIDs (VLAN IDs) to be given in the same hex
> > > format.
> > 
> > 
> > = = = = =
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> > 
> > Thanks again!
> > 
> > Lynne Bartholomew
> > RFC Production Center
> > 
> > 
> > > On Nov 20, 2025, at 4:03 PM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Lynn
> > >
> > > Thank you, sorry, some of those additions came about because of comments 
> > > on how large the data items could.  The important thing was to make sure 
> > > the object was reasonably bouunded but I think I have corrected it below. 
> > >  
> > >
> > > Inline [Don]
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 12:03 PM
> > > To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > > [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger <[email protected]>; 
> > > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > > <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > > <[email protected]>;[email protected]<[email protected]>;
> > >  [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
> > > <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
> > >
> > > Hi, Don.  Thank you for your prompt reply!
> > >
> > > We have updated this document per your notes below.
> > >
> > > We have a few follow-up items for you:
> > >
> > > * Apologies; in looking at our question 8) more closely, we see "maximum 
> > > Length base on" and wonder if "base on" should be "based on".  We also 
> > > wonder if "Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs" should be "(Num DSCPs plus one)" (as 
> > > in showing an addition).  Should we update per our "Possibly" text, or 
> > > could you provide a better way to write this sentence?
> > >
> > > >> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2:  Please clarify "one DSCPs".  There 
> > > >> appears
> > > >> to be a singular-versus-plural issue (i.e., perhaps either "one DSCP"
> > > >> or "one or more DSCPs" would be correct here).
> > > >>
> > > >> Original:
> > > >>  This
> > > >>  means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
> > > >>  could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
> > > >>  octets. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Should be "one DSCP".
> > >
> > > Currently:
> > >  This
> > >  means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
> > >  could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
> > >  octets.
> > >
> > > Possibly:
> > >  This
> > >  means that the maximum Length based on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
> > >  could be 64 times 3 plus one for (Num DSCPs plus one) octets, or 320
> > >  octets.
> > >
> > > [Don]  I believe - checking my math again that this length is on a per 
> > > Traiffic Identifier basis.
> > > If every FID was mapped to an explicit DSCP the length would be (2+1+1) * 
> > > 64 = 256.
> > >
> > > NEW  "under DiffServ Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item"
> > >  This
> > >  means that the maximum Length for the  based on a single DSCP per FID 
> > > for this TLV
> > >  could be 64 times two ( FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus one octet for 
> > > a single DSCP
> > > or 256  octets.
> > >
> > > " Think the error was using 3 instead of 2 and resulting in counting the 
> > > Num DSCPs twice" 
> > >
> > > = = = = =
> > >
> > > * Regarding our question 11) and your reply:  We updated per your note, 
> > > except that
> > > we changed "number octets" to "number of octets".  If this is incorrect, 
> > > should
> > > "number octets" be clarified?
> > >
> > > >> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: We had trouble following these sentences.
> > > >> Does "the next higher integer quantity" refer to a higher integer
> > > >> quantity that comes next, or does it mean "the next-higher integer
> > > >> quantity" or "the next-highest integer quantity"?  In the equation,
> > > >> does "divided by 2 or 16 octets" mean "divided by either 2 octets or
> > > >> 16 octets", or something else?
> > > >>
> > > >> Original:
> > > >>  Note
> > > >>  that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, the
> > > >>  additional length is the value carried in the NumPCPs field
> > > >>  divided by two and rounded up to the next higher integer quantity.
> > > >> This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 16 octets. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don]  I think that is bad math.  Sorry.
> > > >
> > > > NEW
> > > > that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, the
> > > > total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets
> > > > of Flow Identifer, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN Identifier
> > > > plus the number octets for Priority Code Points.  The number of
> > > > octets for the PCPs is computed by rounding up the NumPCPs
> > > > to the nearest even value and dividing by 2.
> > > > This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 8 octets.
> > >
> > >
> > > Currently:
> > >  Note
> > >  that as the length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits,
> > >  the total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets of Flow
> > >  Identifier, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN Identifier plus
> > >  the number of octets for PCPs. The number of octets for the PCPs
> > >  is computed by rounding up NumPCPs to the nearest even value and
> > >  dividing by 2. This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by
> > >  2 or 8 octets.
> > >
> > > [Don] Yes thanks.
> > > = = = = =
> > >
> > > * Regarding our question 15) and your reply:
> > >
> > > >> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4:  We had trouble following "some updated
> > > >> references to external documents listed below" in this paragraph.
> > > >> It appears that "external documents" is intended to refer to
> > > >> [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and [IEEE-8802-1X].
> > > >> However, we see that [RFC8175] cites [IEEE-802.1X] ("IEEE Standards
> > > >> for Local and metropolitan area networks-Port-Based Network Access
> > > >> Control"), but this document cites [IEEE-8802-1X] ("IEEE/ISO/IEC
> > > >> International Standard-Telecommunications and exchange between
> > > >> information technology systems-Requirements for local and
> > > >> metropolitan area networks-Part 1X:Port-based network access
> > > >> control").
> > > >> May we update as suggested?  If not, please clarify the text.
> > > >> Original:
> > > >>  The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175], with
> > > >>  some updated references to external documents listed below, can be
> > > >>  applied to this document.
> > > >> Suggested:
> > > >>  The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
> > > >>  along with the latest versions of [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and
> > > >>  [IEEE-8802-1X] at the time of this writing, can be applied to this
> > > >>  document. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Yes accepted Suggested but the IEEE-8802-1X is the ISO version of 
> > > > IEEE-802.1X
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> > > > I think we should use the IEEE version  change  IEEE-8802-1X to  
> > > > IEEE-802.1X.
> > > [Don]  The practice is IEEE publishes IEEE802.1X for example, then ISO 
> > > republishes it so it is the same document mostly.
> > > However we usually refer to the IEEE base document and did that for IEEE 
> > > 802.1Q. 
> > >
> > > I thought pasted the corrected URL for Original IEEE spec  but maybe I 
> > > goofed.  Here it is again.  IEEE 802.1X-2020
> > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F9018454&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cd814e0e4a9124f8363c108de3116dfcd%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C639002171549286757%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=sNKo2aj4dSZw0aFTiHam15VfjuCnaSmVYqVqR857Ago%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > >  Apologies for our confusion:  When we go to 
> > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F9650828&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cd814e0e4a9124f8363c108de3116dfcd%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C639002171549657749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=y%2FtMf8ZBWTrWrQbsk0%2BcT9bO4gBtdvFMY4ddvuG%2BV6Q%3D&reserved=0>,
> > > we see "8802-1X-2021 - IEEE/ISO/IEC International 
> > > Standard-Telecommunications and exchange
> > > between information technology systems--Requirements for local and 
> > > metropolitan area
> > > networks--Part 1X:Port-based network access control".
> > > Is 
> > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F9650828&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cd814e0e4a9124f8363c108de3116dfcd%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C639002171549728575%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FjEfu0yIvuxxa%2FEDnrSFIQlkINLM4JWv1Jb36BbFA94%3D&reserved=0>
> > >  the wrong URL?
> > >
> > > We changed the citation string per your note but would like to confirm 
> > > that this update
> > > won't be confusing to readers.  We also ask because RFC-to-be 9893 cites 
> > > IEEE 8802-1X
> > > and uses the citation string "[IEEE-8802-1X]".
> > >
> > > Currently:
> > >  [IEEE-802.1X]
> > >             IEEE, "8802-1X-2021 - IEEE/ISO/IEC International Standard-
> > >             Telecommunications and exchange between information
> > >             technology systems--Requirements for local and
> > >             metropolitan area networks--Part 1X:Port-based network
> > >             access control", DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2021.9650828, IEEE
> > >             Std IEEE-802.1X-2021, December 2021,
> > >             
> > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F9650828&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cd814e0e4a9124f8363c108de3116dfcd%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C639002171549793300%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MNVIO%2FTwVSOPs5TZhlH439PD4w%2F5xTuQSRHqF4xAkBM%3D&reserved=0>.
> > > [DON]  use 
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> > > = = = = =
> > >
> > > * Regarding our question 18)b) and your reply -- please let us know which 
> > > form is
> > > preferred for the following three items:
> > >
> > > >> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
> > > >> document.  Please let us know which form is preferred.
> > > >>
> > > >>  priority field / Priority field / Priority Field
> > > >>   (e.g., "priority fields", "Priority fields",
> > > >>   "Each Priority Field is", "each Priority field is")
> > > >>
> > > >>  Item Types / Item types (e.g., "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item
> > > >>    Types", "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item types")
> > > >>
> > > >>  Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
> > > >>    (We also see "Num DSCPs" and "Num SDIs".)
> > > >>  the individual Sub-Data Item / the individual Sub-Data Items -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Good Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > = = = = =
> > >
> > > The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> > >
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> > > Thanks again!
> > >
> > > Lynne Bartholomew
> > > RFC Production Center
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Nov 18, 2025, at 6:24 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Thanks My comments inline [Don]. Please let me know if anything is not 
> > > > clear.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2025 4:57 PM
> > > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger 
> > > > <[email protected]>; Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
> > > > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > > > [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> > > > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
> > > > [email protected]<[email protected]>;[email protected]
> > > >  <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
> > > > <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
> > > >
> > > > Authors,
> > > >
> > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
> > > > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source file.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in 
> > > > the
> > > > title) for use on 
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> > > >  -->
> > > >
> > > > Diffserv Code Points
> > > > Ethernet Priority Code Points.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 1:  We had trouble following the "and", "or", 
> > > > and
> > > > "and/or" relationships in this sentence.  If the suggested text is not
> > > > correct, please clarify.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  The defined mechanism allows
> > > >  for flows to be described in a flexible fashion and when combined
> > > >  with applications such as credit window control, allows credit
> > > >  windows to be shared across traffic sent to multiple DLEP
> > > >  destinations and as part of multiple flows, or used exclusively for
> > > >  traffic sent to a particular destination and/or belonging to a
> > > >  particular flow.
> > > >
> > > > Suggested:
> > > >  The defined mechanism allows
> > > >  for flows to be described in a flexible fashion and, when combined
> > > >  with applications such as credit window control, allows credit
> > > >  windows to be (1) shared across traffic sent to multiple DLEP
> > > >  destinations and as part of multiple flows or (2) used exclusively
> > > >  for traffic sent to a particular destination and/or belonging to a
> > > >  particular flow. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Ok.
> > > >
> > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 2: Does "based on IP protocol and" (which looks
> > > > like "based on Internet Protocol protocol and") mean "based on IP
> > > > protocol type and" or something else?
> > > >
> > > > [Don]The IP transport layer protocol.   (Examples: TCP, UDP etc.)
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  Other types of flow identification, e.g., based on
> > > >  IP protocol and ports, may be defined in the future via new Sub-Data
> > > >  Items. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don]  Suggested: NEW
> > > > Other types of flow identification, e.g., based on
> > > > IP transport layer protocol and ports, may be defined in the future via 
> > > > new Sub-Data
> > > >
> > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] Sections 2.1 and 2.1.1:  We do not see a Type field in
> > > > RFC 8175, but we see a "Data Item Type" field.  May we update as
> > > > suggested (per Section 11.3 ("DLEP Generic Data Item") of RFC 8175),
> > > > to distinguish this definition from the definitions of Length in
> > > > Sections 11.1 ("DLEP Signal Header") and 11.2 ("DLEP Message Header")
> > > > of RFC 8175, which do not mention excluding a "Type" field?
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  Per [RFC8175] Length is the number of octets in the Data Item,
> > > >  excluding the Type and Length fields.
> > > > ...
> > > >  Copying [RFC8175], Length is a 16-bit unsigned integer that is the
> > > >  number of octets in the Sub-Data Item, excluding the Type and
> > > >  Length fields.
> > > >
> > > > Suggested:
> > > >  Per Section 11.3 of [RFC8175], Length is the number of octets in the
> > > >  Data Item, excluding the Data Item Type and Length fields.
> > > > ...
> > > >  Per Section 11.3 of [RFC8175], Length is a 16-bit unsigned integer
> > > >  that is the number of octets in the Sub-Data Item, excluding the
> > > >  Data Item Type and Length fields. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don]
> > > > Yes Data Item Type  vs Type.
> > > >
> > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1:  For ease of the reader, we changed "below"
> > > > to "in Section 2.1.1".  If this is incorrect, please clarify what
> > > > "below" refers to.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item:
> > > >     Zero or more Traffic Classification Sub-Data Items of the format
> > > >     defined below MAY be included.
> > > >
> > > > Currently:
> > > >  Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item:
> > > >     Zero or more Traffic Classification Sub-Data Items of the format
> > > >     defined in Section 2.1.1 MAY be included. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Yes
> > > >
> > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1.1:  We had trouble following the meaning of
> > > > "on a per Sub-Data Item Type".  Are some words missing?
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  The maximum length is limited on a per Sub-Data
> > > >  Item Type. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] NEW
> > > > Each Sub-Data Item has its own length field.
> > > >
> > > > This is all that is needed. Each Sub-Data Item is subject
> > > > to the maximum length of encompassing the Data Item.
> > > >
> > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1.1:  We see that the Value field is mentioned
> > > > under "Sub-Data Item Type:" but is not otherwise defined.  Would you
> > > > like to add a list item and explanation of the Value field?
> > > >
> > > > For example, Section 11.3 of RFC 8175 provides this definition of the
> > > > Value field:
> > > >
> > > >  Value:  A field of <Length> octets that contains data specific to a
> > > >     particular Data Item.
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Value is the same as defined in RFC 8175.
> > > > Repeating this definition is fine. Value is only used for the general 
> > > > format.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >   ~                           Value...                            ~
> > > > ...
> > > >  Sub-Data Item Type:
> > > >     A 16-bit unsigned integer that indicates the type and
> > > >     corresponding format of the Sub-Data Item's Value field. ... -->
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2:  Please clarify "one DSCPs".  There appears
> > > > to be a singular-versus-plural issue (i.e., perhaps either "one DSCP"
> > > > or "one or more DSCPs" would be correct here).
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  This
> > > >  means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
> > > >  could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
> > > >  octets. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Should be "one DSCP". 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Please confirm that there is no IANA 
> > > > registration
> > > > associated with the value "0xFFFF" in this sentence.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >    The value of 0xFFFF is reserved and MUST NOT be used in
> > > >    this field.
> > > > -->
> > > > [Don] Correct this is just a reserved Flow Identifier.  No IANA 
> > > > registration.
> > > >
> > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2:  We changed "is an 8-bit that carries" to
> > > > "is 8 bits long and carries".  If this update is incorrect, please
> > > > clarify the meaning of "an 8-bit that carries".
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  DS Field:
> > > >     Each DS Field is an 8-bit that carries the DSCP field defined in
> > > >     [RFC2474].
> > > >
> > > > Currently:
> > > >  DS Field:
> > > >     Each DS Field is 8 bits long and carries the DSCP field as
> > > >     defined in [RFC2474]. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Good "8 bits long"  is better
> > > > r
> > > > 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: We had trouble following these sentences.
> > > > Does "the next higher integer quantity" refer to a higher integer
> > > > quantity that comes next, or does it mean "the next-higher integer
> > > > quantity" or "the next-highest integer quantity"?  In the equation,
> > > > does "divided by 2 or 16 octets" mean "divided by either 2 octets or
> > > > 16 octets", or something else?
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  Note
> > > >  that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, the
> > > >  additional length is the value carried in the NumPCPs field
> > > >  divided by two and rounded up to the next higher integer quantity.
> > > > This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 16 octets. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don]  I think that is bad math.  Sorry.
> > > >
> > > > NEW
> > > > that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, the
> > > > total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets
> > > > of Flow Identifer, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN Identifier
> > > > plus the number octets for Priority Code Points.  The number of
> > > > octets for the PCPs is computed by rounding up the NumPCPs
> > > > to the nearest even value and dividing by 2.
> > > > This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 8 octets.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3:  We changed "The maximum number of PCPs 8"
> > > > to "The maximum number of PCPs is 8".  If this is incorrect, please
> > > > clarify the text.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >  The maximum number of PCPs 8.
> > > >
> > > > Currently:
> > > >  The maximum number of PCPs is 8. -->
> > > > [Don]  This is correct.
> > > >
> > > > 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: Is "either PCP" correct here? Earlier 
> > > > text indicates
> > > > that there can be up to 8 PCPs.
> > > >
> > > > Original:
> > > >   Note that zero (0) is a valid value for either PCP.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps:
> > > >   Note that zero (0) is a valid value for PCP.
> > > >
> > > > [Don]  This is correct removing either.
> > > >
> > > > 14) <!-- [rfced] We found the following two comments in the XML file.
> > > > May we remove them?
> > > > First comment:
> > > >  Both the router and the modem need to support this document,
> > > >  DLEP Traffic Classification, and DLEP Credit Flow Control,
> > > >  <xref target="I-D.ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control" 
> > > > format="default"/>.
> > > > Second comment:
> > > >  This document requests the assignment of several values by IANA.  All
> > > >  assignments are to registries defined by <xref target="RFC8175"
> > > >  format="default"/>. -->
> > > > [Don] Yes please remove.
> > > >
> > > > 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4:  We had trouble following "some updated
> > > > references to external documents listed below" in this paragraph.
> > > > It appears that "external documents" is intended to refer to
> > > > [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and [IEEE-8802-1X].
> > > > However, we see that [RFC8175] cites [IEEE-802.1X] ("IEEE Standards
> > > > for Local and metropolitan area networks-Port-Based Network Access
> > > > Control"), but this document cites [IEEE-8802-1X] ("IEEE/ISO/IEC
> > > > International Standard-Telecommunications and exchange between
> > > > information technology systems-Requirements for local and
> > > > metropolitan area networks-Part 1X:Port-based network access
> > > > control").
> > > > May we update as suggested?  If not, please clarify the text.
> > > > Original:
> > > >  The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175], with
> > > >  some updated references to external documents listed below, can be
> > > >  applied to this document.
> > > > Suggested:
> > > >  The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
> > > >  along with the latest versions of [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and
> > > >  [IEEE-8802-1X] at the time of this writing, can be applied to this
> > > >  document. -->
> > > >
> > > > [Don] Yes accepted Suggested but the IEEE-8802-1X is the ISO version of 
> > > > IEEE-802.1X
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> > > >
> > > > I think we should use the IEEE version  change  IEEE-8802-1X to  
> > > > IEEE-802.1X.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 16) <!-- [rfced] Below are some specific questions relating to IANA 
> > > > text in
> > > > Section 5.2 of the document.
> > > > a) FYI - To improve clarity, we added a new table (current Table 2) to 
> > > > show
> > > > the registration policies and adjusted the original table (current 
> > > > Table 3) to
> > > > show only the initial contents of the registry.
> > > > [Don] Good.
> > > > b) In the current Table 3, which shows the initial values of the new 
> > > > registry,
> > > > [RFC2474] and [IEEE8021Q] are listed as references. Should this 
> > > > document be
> > > > listed as a reference instead of or in addition to [RFC2474] and 
> > > > [IEEE8021Q]?
> > > > It seems that this document defines the Diffserv Traffic Classification 
> > > > in
> > > > Section 2.2 and the Ethernet Traffic Classification in Section 2.3. 
> > > > Please
> > > > review and let us know if any updates are needed. If needed, we will 
> > > > ask IANA
> > > > to update the "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" 
> > > > registry
> > > > prior to publication.
> > > > [Don] The table referencing [RFC2474] and [IEEE8021Q] is correct for 
> > > > Type code 1 and Type code 2 respectively.
> > > > No need to add this document as reference - it is there for the whole 
> > > > table.
> > > >
> > > > Link to registry:
> > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org%2Fassignments%2Fdlep-parameters%2Fdlep-parameters.xhtml%23traffic-classification-sub-data-item-type-values&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cd814e0e4a9124f8363c108de3116dfcd%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C639002171550518029%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BUM7t%2BgEWvFZwpa72dXyQs%2BGfhoDzBAh2Iw76nuPpF0%3D&reserved=0>
> > > > c) Related to the question above, the first two sentences below do not
> > > > directly indicate that this document defines the two new Sub-Data Items 
> > > > in
> > > > Sections 2.2 and 2.3, but the third sentence does. Should any of these
> > > > sentences be updated?
> > > > Original:
> > > >   This document also introduces DLEP Sub-Data Items, and Sub-Data Items 
> > > > are
> > > >   defined to support DiffServ and Ethernet traffic classification.
> > > >   ...
> > > >   This document defines support for traffic classification using a
> > > >   single new Data Item in Section 2.1 for general support and two new
> > > >   Sub-Data Items are defined to support identification of flows based
> > > >   on DSCPs and PCPs.
> > > > [Don] This is good.
> > > >   ...
> > > >   This document defines traffic classification based on a DLEP
> > > >   destination and flows identified by either DiffServ [RFC2475]
> > > >   Differentiated Services Codepoints (DSCPs) or IEEE 802.1Q [IEEE8021Q]
> > > >   Ethernet Priority Code Points (PCPs).
> > > > Perhaps (updates to first two sentences to indicate that this document 
> > > > defines
> > > > the two Sub-Data Items; not changes to third sentence):
> > > >   This document also introduces DLEP Sub-Data Items and defines two new
> > > >   Sub-Data Items to support Diffserv and Ethernet traffic 
> > > > classification.
> > > >   ...
> > > >   This document defines support for traffic classification using a
> > > >   single new Data Item (see Section 2.1) for general support and 
> > > > defines two new
> > > >   Sub-Data Items to support identification of flows based
> > > >   on DSCPs and PCPs (see Sections 2.2 and 2.3).
> > > > [Don] This is good.
> > > >   ...
> > > >   This document defines traffic classification based on a DLEP
> > > >   destination and flows identified by either Diffserv [RFC2475]
> > > >   Differentiated Services Codepoints (DSCPs) or IEEE 802.1Q [IEEE8021Q]
> > > >   Ethernet Priority Code Points (PCPs).
> > > > d) May we combine the first paragraph after the current Table 3 and the 
> > > > last
> > > > paragraph of Section 5.2 as follows? Also, would it be helpful to 
> > > > separate the
> > > > text after the current Table 3 into a new section so future documents 
> > > > can
> > > > easily refer to the guidance? Last, we suggest including "Specification 
> > > > Required"
> > > > in this text as the guidance only applies to registrations with that 
> > > > policy.
> > > > Original:
> > > >    This section provides guidance to the Internet Assigned Numbers
> > > >    Authority (IANA) regarding registration of values related to the
> > > >    Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values registry for the
> > > >    DLEP protocol, in accordance with BCP 26 and [RFC8126].
> > > >    ...
> > > >    To simplify future registrations, it is recommended that this
> > > >    guidance serves as a standard reference for all DLEP-related
> > > >    registries.  Future specifications may include a header note pointing
> > > >    to this guidance document.
> > > > Perhaps:
> > > >   5.3. Registration Guidance
> > > >    This section provides guidance for registrations in the "Traffic
> > > >    Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" registry. To simplify 
> > > > future
> > > >    registrations in DLEP-related registries, it is recommended that the
> > > >    guidance in this section apply to all registries within the "Dynamic 
> > > > Link
> > > >    Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Parameters" registry group that use the
> > > >    "Specification Required" policy [RFC8126]. Future specifications
> > > >     may point to the guidance in this document.
> > > > [Don] This update is good.
> > > >
> > > > e) Please clarify "two specific registries" here. Is the intent "two 
> > > > specific
> > > > entries" (i.e., 1 for Diffserv Traffic Classification and 2 for Ethernet
> > > > Traffic Classification)?
> > > > Original (the previous sentence included for context):
> > > >  This registry encompasses packet traffic classification, where
> > > >  standard packet header identifiers in packets or data frames indicate
> > > >  Quality of Service (QoS) treatment.  It includes two specific
> > > >  registries for widely recognized identifiers used in QoS management
> > > >  for IP and Ethernet networks.
> > > > Perhaps:
> > > >  This registry encompasses packet traffic classification, where
> > > >  standard packet header identifiers in packets or data frames indicate
> > > >  Quality of Service (QoS) treatment.  It includes two specific
> > > >  entries for widely recognized identifiers used in QoS management
> > > >  for IP and Ethernet networks.
> > > > [Don] This is good.
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> > > > [Don] Good thanks.
> > > > b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
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> > > >
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> > > > RFC9892 (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17)
> > > > Title            : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Traffic 
> > > > Classification Data Item
> > > > Author(s)        : B. Cheng, D. Wiggins, L. Berger, D. Fedyk, Ed.
> > > > WG Chair(s)      : Don Fedyk, Ronald in 't Velt, Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
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