Hi Eric,

Thank you for your reply! Please see inline.

> On Dec 2, 2025, at 1:38 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Re the questions and comments:
> 
> * I will send a revised file with the fixed width issues fixed

Noted!

> * As I understand the WHATWG question, there are two distinct issues (1) 
> whether to reference a commit and (2) whether to reference fragments. I'm OK 
> with referencing a commit like this if that's what you agreed with WHATWG, 
> but I read this text as saying not to reference fragments unless we ensure 
> that the anchor is permanent https://whatwg.org/working-mode#anchors. Have we 
> done so for this one?

Thank you for clarifying. We are unsure if the current anchor [1] is permanent, 
so we would recommend not using it and using the more general one [2]. However, 
if any other authors put in a request with WHATWG to make that anchor 
permanent, please let us know.

[1] https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser
[2] https://url.spec.whatwg.org/ 

Thank you!

Madison Church
RFC Production Center

> -Ekr
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 6:58 AM Madison Church <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Hi Authors,
> 
> This is a friendly weekly reminder that we await answers to the followup 
> questions/comments below and your review of the document before continuing 
> with the publication process. For details of the AUTH48 process in 
> kramdown-rfc (including the two-part approval process), see: 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Madison Church
> RFC Production Center
> 
> > On Nov 25, 2025, at 8:34 AM, Madison Church <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Eric,
> > 
> > Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document as requested and 
> > have two followup items for your review, which can be viewed in the AUTH48 
> > thread below or in the updated markdown file marked with "rfced". 
> > 
> >> On Nov 20, 2025, at 10:33 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Update: I fixed my affiliation.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 8:23 PM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Thank you. I am editing this in GitHub. I merged in your proposed changes 
> >> except
> >> for those I think are inadvisable, which I reverted. I answered your 
> >> questions inline.
> >> 
> >> You can find the latest markdown file here (also attached):
> >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/refs/heads/auth48/rfc9849.md
> >> 
> >> -Ekr
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Authors,
> >> 
> >> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> >> the following questions, which are also in the source file.
> >> 
> >> 1) <!-- [rfced] References
> >> 
> >> a) Regarding [WHATWG-IPV4], this reference's date is May 2021. 
> >> The URL provided resolves to a page with "Last Updated 12 May 2025".
> >> 
> >> Note that WHATWG provides "commit snapshots" of their living standards and
> >> there are several commit snapshots from May 2021 with the latest being 
> >> from 20
> >> May 2021. For example: 20 May 2021
> >> (https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser)
> >> 
> >> We recommend updating this reference to the most current version of the 
> >> WHATWG
> >> Living Standard, replacing the URL with the more general URL to the 
> >> standard
> >> (https://url.spec.whatwg.org/), and adding a "commit snapshot" URL to the
> >> reference. 
> >> 
> >> Current:
> >> [WHATWG-IPV4]
> >>           WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard, May
> >>            2021, <https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
> >> 
> >> EKR: Per MT, WHATWG has asked us not to do that. We should leave
> >> this as-is and change the date to December 2025.
> > 
> > 1) For context, we reached out to WHATWG in September about a format for 
> > references to their standards (see: 
> > https://github.com/whatwg/meta/issues/363). The proposed update below for 
> > this reference reflects the approved format. It would be helpful for the 
> > RPC to know what WHATWG has asked authors to not do so that we can reach 
> > out for clarification and update our recommended citation if necessary. 
> > With this in mind, let us know if any updates need to be made.
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> > [WHATWG-IPV4]
> >           WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard,
> >           <https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
> > 
> >           Commit snapshot:
> >           
> > https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser
> > 
> > Regarding the date, we don't recommend using a future date for a reference 
> > as it doesn't reflect the date for a currently published work (unless there 
> > is an anticipated update to the WHATWG specification in December 2025). 
> > 
> >> d) FYI, RFCYYY1 (draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech) will be updated during the XML 
> >> stage.
> >> -->
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terms use fixed-width font
> >> inconsistently. Please review these terms and let us know how we should 
> >> update
> >> or if there are any specific patterns that should be followed (e.g.,
> >> fixed-width font used for field names, variants, etc.).
> >> 
> >> accept_confirmation
> >> cipher_suite
> >> ClientHello
> >> ClientHelloInner
> >> ClientHelloOuter
> >> ClientHelloOuterAAD
> >> config_id
> >> ECHClientHello
> >> ECHConfig
> >> ECHConfig.contents.public_name
> >> ECHConfigContents
> >> ECHConfigList
> >> EncodedClientHelloInner
> >> inner
> >> maximum_name_length
> >> outer
> >> payload
> >> public_key
> >> ServerHello.random
> >> zeros
> >> —>
> >> 
> >> EKR: Thanks. Fixed width should be used for field names and other PDUs.
> >> 
> >> I notice that some of these are regular words (zeros) so you have to 
> >> determine from context whether it's referring to some protocol element or 
> >> just to the concept "carries an encrypted payload" versus "the payload 
> >> field". Do you want to take a cut at changing as many of these as make 
> >> sense and then I can review, or would you prefer I make the changes?
> >> One question is what to do in definition lists. My sense is that the list 
> >> heds should be non-fixed-width but maybe you have a convention.
> > 
> > 2) Thank you for offering to make changes. Please feel free to attach an 
> > updated markdown file containing the changes for terms using fixed-width 
> > font.
> > 
> > For definition lists, we typically leave this up to the authors to 
> > determine how they would like the terms to appear for consistency. For an 
> > example of terms in a definition list using a fixed-width font, see: 
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9623.html#section-5.1.1.
> > 
> > The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.xml
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
> > 
> > The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> > side)
> > 
> > Markdown diffs:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
> > 
> > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: 
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849.
> > 
> > We will await approvals from each author prior to moving forward with 
> > formatting updates. For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc 
> > (including the two-part approval process), see: 
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc. 
> > 
> > Thank you!
> > 
> > Madison Church
> > RFC Production Center
> 

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