On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:17 -0500, TJ Frazier wrote:
> On 11/19/2010 15:13, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > TJ wrote,
> >> The BandIt macro sets the header background (and the border lines) to
> >> a beautiful medium blue that MZ put in his code. If you want the
> >> header to be Gray10%, it's only a one-line change in BandIt.
> >
> > Michele (and anyone else interested),
> >
> > I had changed the lines and header background to gray so that the tables
> > could be used without further processing if the file is used with a
> > different colour scheme (for example, by the LibO team). Font colours
> > can be set in styles so they all change automagically when a different
> > template is applied, but tables don't update that way.
> >
> > Other groups such as LibO may choose to completely redo the appearance
> > of files they pick up from us, but I think it's nice to avoid forcing
> > people to do extra fiddling. They, and we, don't seem to have enough
> > people to keep the content of the chapters up to date and correct, so
> > extra time spent on non-essentials seems to me to be a poor use of
> > scarce resources.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > --Jean
> 
> One glitch remains in BandIt: for some rows and tables, the borders 
> update as wanted, but for others they don't. Problem probably related to 
> cell-level settings; working on it.
> 
> Paragraph styles should not be used to set the colour schemes. They will 
> override the table-related settings, but probably not in the desired 
> way. The sliver of screen-capture in the attachment shows what happens 
> when the (old 3.2) paragraph style says "Blue" [RGB(0,0,80)] and the 
> table setting (by BandIt) says "MZ's blue". Notice the light-blue blocks 
> adjacent to the vertical border lines.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant changing colours in paragraph styles for
headings and other items OUTSIDE of tables, for the purpose of a
applying a different colour scheme to a document. 

There was no attachment.

> 
> The built-in style "Table" is in the "special styles" category, which 
> needs some research. I suspect that one can apply a style to an entire 
> table, if the style is a "table style". I'll play with it.

I believe AutoFormat will do that. Before you and Michele produced the
BandIt macro, I had been using an AutoFormat to update tables from the
old style to the new. It works fine, but I don't think AutoFormats can
be stored in a template.

> 
> I quite agree that we should allow changing appearances readily. BandIt 
> should help make that possible.

I agree, BandIt should help make it possible to change appearances when
moving from one colour scheme to another. However, it's one more thing
to do, taking time that might be better spent doing something else.

Also BTW, we probably want to change the colour of the lines above and
below the Tips, Notes, and Caution tables. These at present are still in
the old OOo blue. I want to make them black, again so they can be used
in any colour scheme without change.

Lastly, I don't recall (and can't immediately find) whether BandIt is
supposed to go through an entire document finding tables and fixing
them, or if one must run the macro on each table separately. If the
latter, that is good, because we use tables for layout even more than we
use "data tables", and we don't want tables-for-layout getting banded!

--Jean


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