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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank W. Kooistra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: [authors] oooauthors site; permissions 2nd edition


>I am new to the group 
> 
> Before i start the essentials of this community : write/translate the manuals 
> of openoffice.org, i wanted to make sure i understand and can use the tools.
> They are essential for a community effort to succeed. 
> 
> Our main tool, apart from the OpenOffice itself is the website. If properly 
> setup,  it will enhance our production, avoid double work, and allows us to 
> create a coherent product. 
> 
> Let me set the Parameters 
> I am user Frankwk 
> I a Dutch (From the Netherlands) 
> So mu userspace, homespace should be 
> http://oooauthors.org/nl/ 
> 
> In the beginning it is difficult to realize what should see and what not..
> 
> Going to the Dutch environment (Select the directory Nederlands which is 
> http://oooauthors.org/nl/)  I noticed that It was mainly the English site, 
> the English environment, and it only had the English tools. Documents under 
> review were the English ones etc.
> Confusing and to a point irritating: What do i do with a English Style guide 
> in the  Dutch language. 
> When i missed the styleguide it was sent by private mail (Thanks Leo) 
> 
> .
> Also i could not access my personal folder: see how i am presented myself (?)
> My preferences and Undo are available. 
> But i could not do anything.  So Nothing to undo.
> 
> I was curious what tools the other language groups have ( I can read most 
> languages  available on the site) 
> 
> For all languages the view was the same: Foreign language directories 
> belonging to the English language group. Least that i could see logged in as 
> me. 
> 
> Except the German directory.
> Here i saw what i expected : even more than i expected 
> I have the role as owner and reviewer there 
> 
> But still i cannot see how i am presented to the group, and cannot use my 
> local directory. Since i cannot do anything at the Dutch Directory. i wanted 
> to add things i missed in my home, and make it available to the group from 
> there.
> =-=-
> 
> This morning i saw that all problems were solved : 
> because i was in the German directory, but now as a normal user : 
> and could access my private folders preferences etc. 
> I created a directory, uploaded the styleguide for Dutch.  
> 
> Doing this i could see where all happend: and yes i am a member of the German 
> group. But now all worked fine: if i had been  a German reviewer.
> Am I ?? 
> 
> No.  
> I saw that i was not in http://oooauthors.org/de/ 
> but in http://oooauthors.org/de_/ 
> 
> 
> It looked like that i made a mistake: Checking the undo ( which is a list 
> what one has done) i could see that an undescribed action at 3 o'clock in the 
> morning had created an index.html in the directory /oocommunity which appears 
> as a directory Deutsch in the root of oooauthors, the second Deutsch 
> directory..  
> with url: http://oooauthors.org/de_
> 
> (hint to solve this: Permissions in /oocommunity should be set to r-x ( read 
> and search ) for the group: now it is at rwx for owner and group, owner 
> should be root)  
> 
> Probably i hit a few times the returns too many. 
> Because i have ( had?) to  press a few returns before a new page is loaded 
> (address not found - DNS problem)  
> 
> But this a a big security issue : 
> For sure i cannot create a private directory, while i am a member 
> But i can create a whole new branch : with totally new permissions 
> and than create my own entries in this branch also in the member directory.. 
> 
> Looking back 
> I think there was a mistake made by adding me to the site: 
> 
> I think my language Dutch, was confused with Deutsch. The name of my language 
> is Nederlands in Dutch, so i have to become a member of the group Nederlands. 
> 
> My investigation revealed a security issue: nobody should be able to open a 
> new brach like that. (see my hint above) 
> 
> I apologize: was not intended. I will remove it, when problems are solved : 
> or 
> remove anything in http://oooauthors.org/de_/ 
> 
> I saw there were rather a lot of unlogical links 
> Like a chines directory in the German "work in progress" folder. Is everybody 
> a member of the German group ? and so the Chinese member tried to create his 
> own environement?  Ne hoa mah)   
> I think those directories should be scrutinized for security reasons.. 
> 
> If necessary i am ready to do a new test after the security issues are 
> cleared. 
> 
> 
> I noticed an mail in the group where permissions have been altered because 
> some members of the group created spam.
> Maybe a better membership ballotage would cure that trick: and since the 
> owners of the offending files are know: just "dismember" them ? 
> Looks like now we have an crippled  site because of this.  
> 
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet,  
> 
> Frank
> 
> _________________
> Frank W. Kooistra
> Spoorsingel 89 
> 2613 BB Delft 
> t:06 45 77 00 17

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