> >- Factories / utility classes for everything, Factory / utility
> >outside the framework and integral static methods outside, or all
> >functionality within classes.
>
> This was what I wanted to do ages ago. Namely create Factories and have
> Mutable* versions of all the objects .... however I couldn't come
> up with a
> good enough reason to warrant that. (And thus the move was vetoed;]).

Isn't security-by-design good enough?

> Same with config and cm - and any services passed in CM. Automagically
> generating proxies is the only way to do it safely.

exactly. O, well...

> I was told to not sub-class to get type safety so I have been gradually
> making it a requirement to cast things based on expectation.

darn. O, well...

> >Something like that.
>
> sounds good to me - want to update the docs ;)

next one on the list, in fact.

> If you were to be writing to a mobile app then the other interfaces would
> also need to be stripped out. Luckily there is tools that do the stripping
> for you ;) (I think someone even submitted one to ant a while back).

This still does not disprove me saying there are advantages to the
separation between interface and implementation...o, welll...I'll
agree to disagree for now.

> true but we are moving away from that model. Turbine recently split, ant
> split, in time I assume commons will split etc.

In that case I really have no argument at all, do I? =)

> When the above is achieved then I will do all the work required to put
> together a release but until ... ;)

By that schedule June 15 is something we can definately do.

regards,

Leo

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