The size of Avalon projects has gotten silly.

jakarta-avalon-apps         21.2M
jakarta-avalon              15.7M    
jakarta-avalon-excalibur    10.6M
jakarta-avalon-phoenix       5.2M
jakarta-avalon-cornerstone   3.4M
jakarta-avalon-logkit        1.5M

Have a look at the duplicate jars in jakarta-avalon-apps:

jeff@expresso:~/apache/jakarta/jakarta-avalon-apps$ find . -name "*.jar" -exec 
basename {} \; | sort 
avalon-excalibur-4.1.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework-4.1.2.jar
avalon-framework.jar
bcel.jar
bsf.jar
commons-altrmi-client-impl.jar
commons-altrmi-client-impl.jar
commons-altrmi-client-interfaces.jar
commons-altrmi-client-interfaces.jar
commons-altrmi-common.jar
commons-altrmi-common.jar
commons-altrmi-generator.jar
commons-altrmi-generator.jar
commons-altrmi-server-impl.jar
commons-altrmi-server-impl.jar
commons-altrmi-server-interfaces.jar
commons-altrmi-server-interfaces.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
cornerstone.jar
hsqldb.jar
jakarta-regexp.jar
jdbc2_0-stdext.jar
js.jar
jta_1.0.1.jar
logkit.jar
merlin.jar
openorb-1.3.0.jar
openorb_event-1.3.0.jar
openorb_ots-1.2.1.jar
openorb_tools-1.3.0.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
phoenix-client-20020226.jar
savepoint.jar
xerces.jar


So yes, a Maven-like system would be *very* appropriate :) 


--Jeff

On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:12:34AM +1100, Jeff Turner wrote:
> Maven looks cool, and very appropriate for our situation.
> 
> --Jeff
> 
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:25:45AM -0400, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote:
> > I'm not sure this is 100% germane, but the guys over
> > at Turbine have been doing a lot of work in creating
> > a unified project management system (probably that's
> > not the best name for it). It's called Maven, and you
> > can head to http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven
> > to find more information. With it, you can generate
> > everything (build system, docs, metrics, web site, more)
> > from one centralized project descriptor. The project
> > is today at the point where all the Turbine subprojects
> > have been moved to use Maven; perhaps it would be a good
> > idea to consider it.
> > 
> > FYI, the guy behind Maven is Jason van Zyl.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Gonzalo A. Diethelm
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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