Tony,

>Paul,
>
>Maybe I should clarify a few points.  The echo server that I am talking about is just 
>a simple example that I was hoping could easily demonstrate some very basic Avalon 
>functionality.  It will listen on some configurable socket for some request and echo 
>it back to the client.  That was really all I intended.  Maybe it is too basic but 
>the idea was to demonstrate Avalon not implement some huge server.  They are intended 
>as examples only and my intention is to make something that the Avalon team would 
>deem fit to include as examples.
>
Understand.  I thought you meant the RFC specified 'echo'.

>You were right.  I was not talking about Phoenix.  Unless I am mistaken, Phoenix 
>seems to be several steps beyond where I was planning to start.  It would be a good 
>idea to evolve it to a Phoenix example but, when you reach that level of 
>sophistication, the example may be too simple.
>
Well then < devils advocate mode = on > Avalon Framework and Avalon 
Excalibur are not necessarily just for servers.  They are equally 
applicable to client side code.

>I looked at the examples and they still jump in much deeper than I wanted to start 
>with.  I am getting the impression that maybe there is not a need to start as basic 
>as I am proposing (?????).  I wanted to start just by demonstrating the concept of 
>COP (as simple as it can be).  Too basic for most and probably not a very practical 
>application but, an example none the less.  Am I the only one that feels there is a 
>need for this?
>
I had kind thought that the PDK showed the simplest of all servers that 
used Avalon concepts.  Next to that, I had thought that the HelloWorld 
demo was also quite simple....

I guess my education will continue upon seeing the product of your 
labors.  We will of course integrate simple demos to the codebase if 
suitably attributed as Apache license...

Regards,

- Paul


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