part 4: downloading and installing

Assuming you've figured out you need to get your downloads from 
jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-avalon, how easy is it to download and install?

It's obvious you need a 'release'.

Cornerstone: empty. That won't work.

Excalibur: select the latest one, click, unzip or untar. Select readme.txt. Redirects 
to online docs. Those redirect to the api docs. Those redirect to the avalon docs. 
Problems with those have already been pointed out. Could do with examples and more 
docs in general. Should mention local docs.

Framework: select the latest one, click, unzip or untar. Select readme.txt. Redirects 
to online docs.  Problems with those have already been pointed out. Could do with 
examples and more docs in general. Should mention local docs.

Logkit: select the latest one, click, unzip or untar. Select readme.txt. Redirects to 
online docs. Easy to read and use. Should mention local docs.

Phoenix: select the latest one, click, unzip or untar. Select readme.txt. Tells you to 
execute run.bat/sh and checkout the docs dir. There's a getting started document. This 
mentioned a hello world application. However, the described response from run.bat/sh 
is not reproduced.

Apps: not even listed.

Downloading is easy enough (cornerstone and apps perhaps don't have to be easy to 
download yet). Logkit is easy to follow; it works as described. Phoenix is promising 
but the documentation is out of date. Framework and Excalibur basically tell you to 
browse the javadocs to figure out what to do with them.

regards,

- Leo


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