> > > > I believe that Cocoon does exactly this: that you can drop a WAR file
> > > > containing a Cocoon application into a servlet container and it works.
> > > > So we could borrow their model for doing this.
> > >
> > > Or fix the Cocoon model ;-)
> >
> > cocoon model: adhere to .war standard, run within servlet container.
> 
> Nope.
> 
<snip>
> It just happens to be more used as a .war, but improperly, since it's at the
> same architectural level.

Oh. I assumed the servlet was just a frontend to an internal engine.

> > Use
> > avalon components internally, and a container from the avalon excalibur
> > project.
> 
> This is correct.
> 
> > Nothing wrong with that (just some issues with the container it
> > uses).
> 
> Not wrong, just *a* way of running it.
> I think it would be cool if the *same* code could be packaged as a .sar or
> as a .war.

yup. Me too.

> > I think what you should have is a container like phoenix (standalone,
> > JMX manageable, hot-swap support), and a simpler container for use
> > within J2EE in which you can deploy the exact same servlets.
> 
> Let's call it Warhead.
> It should be able to run .sars from a .war.

=) Nah...it should just be able to run the same code you package into
the .sar.

> Basically, this is what I want.
> 
>  cd xml-cocoon2
>  build installwar
> -----> .war
>   build installsar
> -----> .sar
> 
> Have the possibility of calling blocks, having block dependency, etc, from
> within Cocoon in both scenarios, without having to write customized
> environments for both war and sar containers.
> 
> Too much?  ;-P

We'll get there, just in a different way.

> > Of course, this is not the easiest way to scratch your itch.
> > Fortunately, Pete seems to be going down the same road.
> 
> ?

nevermind =)

- Leo



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