Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>This would solve 90% of the problems I had with Avalon.
>>I had to create my container implementation because of this,
>>and it was
>>a real PITA.
>
>>BTW, I regard it as a requirement to be able to do this
>>without having
>>to create my complete version of the
>>container-componentmanager-whateverwecallit.
>
> Understood. The main challenge is what extensions do we
> support. I.E. Marcus had four phases of component use
> when Avalon only ever talks about 3 (init, active,
> destruction).
>
>
>>>which raises another question: should we have optional interfaces
>>>(ones a container doesn't really have to recognize) in framework or
>>>not?
>>
>>User speak: are they part of Avalon or not? ;-)
>>
>>As Paul and I have recently seen on the James list, there is big
>>confusion between Framework, Excalibur and Phoenix.
>>
>>One of the reasons is that many features of "Avalon" are not in
>>Framework but in Excalibur, Phoenix etc...
>
>
> +1
>
>
>>IMNSHO, we should structure ourselves like this:
>>
>> API
>> |
>> | ------ Utility classes
>> / \
>> / | \
>> Reference implementations
>> | | | | | | |
>> Applications tha work in the above
>>
>>
>>
>>IE:
>>
>> Framework
>> |
>> | ------ Excalibur
>> / \
>> / | \
>>Phoenix, Fortress, Merlin, Jesktop (yes, Jesktop)
>> | | | | | | |
>> Cornerstone, Phoenix Apps, Jesktop Apps
>>
>>
>>This would clear up some confusion for the users.
>>
>>Since we are talking about containers, I wanna commit my container
>>somewhere (since everyone has one, can't I? ;-)
>
>
> Don't you want to make what's there better, instead of splitting
> attention even further?
:-))
>>Where shall I put it, in an Excalibur scratchpad?
>
> that would be the location, but excalibur is pretty crowded already.
> why not join forces w/ Fortress or Merlin?
It is my intention.
I just wanted to put it in there so to be able to converge more quickly...
Hmmm... I still have to think about how to do it...
... I guess I'll have a deeper look at Fortress and Merlin instead first :-)
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