Leo Simons wrote:
> 
> IANAL.
> 
> I would like as short a message as possible. I would also like a lawyer
> to decide which message is satisfactory (are you a lawyer). If there is
> no decisive assessment as to what is safe, I would like to be on the
> good side of safe.
> 
> I do *not* think that this discussion should take place on avalon-dev. I
> object to voting on the subject where it is apparantly unclear what
> choices have been given to us by the PMC, if we indeed have a choice.
> 
> This is not something for a subproject to decide. Any change from
> current standard jakarta practice (and I think the short version is
> common) should be discussed in the appropriate forum.

Agreed. Any legal decision *must* take place at the PMC level.

This community (nor a single committer or ASF member) doesn't have the
legal right to change the policy of the Jakarta PMC and the Jakarta PMC
(along with all other PMCs) was specifically instructed *not* to allow
licensing boilerplating *before* the Apache 2.0 license was ratified by
the ASF Board.

It doesn't matter if you agree or not: this is *NOT* something we
control.

The ASF gives legal protection to you and the ASF works really hard (and
pays laywers sometimes!) to test legal decisions.

If you want to remain under the ASF umbrella, you have to follow its
rules. 

If you don't like such policies, you can either fight to change them or
leave. Up to you.

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
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