Peter Donald wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:18, Paul Hammant wrote:
>
>>>Have a look at Microsofts "attribute-driven" programming style that is
>>>part of dot net. I have not looked at implementation details mainly just
>>>research+white papers about it. Thats where I want a lot of avalon stuff
>>>to go in the future. It is a brilliant concept when used appropriately.
>>
>>That's what everyone is saying. Expect .Net inspired atributes to
>>arrive in Java3.
>
>
> JSR 175 (???) is doing them and it is led by a fairly smart guy so hopefully
> they will be kool. I hope they don't try to over define it though as that
> will screw it up but if they don't it could be sweet. JSR 175 is why I have
> been so insistent on keeping only type information in the
> BlockInfo/ComponentInfo as it will give us a clean migration path to JDK1.5s
> features.
>
>
>>>Can you imagine the ease of this if we ever achieved it?
>>>* Service Orientated Programming + Attribute driven framework
>>>* Model Driven development + Attribute driven framework
>>>
>>>I think the above is largely achievable (even if not in a a completely
>>>generic fashion for MDD).
>>>
>>>If someone was to come up with a decent process/workflow system (I haven't
>>>ever seen anything that is vaguely close to being viable) then it would
>>>make development soooooooooo much easier - essentially just coding in
>>>buisness rules and maybe engines to interpret the model.
>>>
>>>Anyways I believe I be gushing ;)
>>
>>Sigh, will this commercial effort ever be open-sourced?
>
>
> No idea. Parts of it definetly could be. The end client is telstra (a local
> telco) who does not give a doodie about the code IP and my indirect employer
> already intends to keep 90% of the infrastructure code as part of the deal.
> So it may be possible. Though it is rather ugly code ;)
>
> If there was an opensource implementation of the MetaData JSR then I would
> definetly do it properly. I have already rewritten the basic plumbing about 5
> times because it is easier to do that than do it properly. Going via
> something like the MetaData API would make it worth the effort.
Article on JMI
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2EE/JMI/
XMI spec
http://cgi.omg.org/docs/formal/00-11-02.pdf
JMI spec
http://www.jcp.org/jsr/detail/40.jsp
> Anyone familiar with any object metadata frameworks in opensource land?
>
http://mdr.netbeans.org/
http://mdr.netbeans.org/architecture.html
http://www.dlib.org/dlib/july96/lagoze/07lagoze.html
http://nsuml.sourceforge.net/
http://argouml.tigris.org/documentation/defaulthtml/cookbook/ch03s05.html
http://argouml.tigris.org/
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