Paul Hammant wrote:
> Gary,
> 
>>> I did an avalon-based GUI Swing framework called Monarch
>>> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/krysalis/krysalis-monarch/, 
>>>
>>> and it works quite well, but it's not yet finised.
>>>
>>> It defines coarse grained GUI components-apps to be run in the
>>> Container, which gives them standard services: resource finding, icon
>>> resolving, eventbus, activation, etc.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I _really_ like the sound of this!
>>  
>>
> There is also a project called Jesktop that at some point may do a link 
> up with Monarch.  At  least Nicola and I have agreed in principle to do 
> the synergy thing, even it we have never gotten around for it (not 
> enough hours in the day).
> 
> http://www.jesktop.net
> http://www.jesktop.com
> http://www.jesktop.org

Yes :-)

It was the first time I met Paul, and has been a cool discussion :-)

Basically what could be done in the immediate is keep the two separate 
touting Jesktop more as a "Window Manager" and Monarch as a high level 
"GUI Toolkit"; look at integration later.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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