Ummm. Just in case it wasn't clear. I am wanting to move stuff to Apache 
commons which is altogether different from Jakarta Commons.

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:18, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Peter Donald wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As some of you are undoubtably aware, Jakarta/Apache is in the process of
> > going through some rapid evolution. Part of the problem is that Jakarta
> > is too big, too out of scope and doesn't offer any legal protection for
> > the majority of it's constituents (ie all of Avalon).
> >
> > There are several different initiatives underway to "fix" this problem. I
> > would like us to start looking at some of the less radical steps that can
> > be taken to address these issues.
> >
> > In particular there has been two new top level projects created;
> > commons.apache.org and incubator.apache.org. Nicola is heavily involved
> > over in the incubator.apache.org and I am keen on commons.apache.org.
> >
> > You can go to both websites to see a basic overview (neither are fully
> > fledged yet but are worrks in progress). Basically incubator is where you
> > go to create new communitys and codebases while commons is like Jakarta
> > Commons except Apache-wide and following the standard Apache rules for
> > each component (or grouping).
> >
> > Firstly I would like everyone to consider starting to move selected parts
> > of excalibur over into the commons. In particular the parts I would like
> > to move over first are the ones that are decoupled from Avalon/Framework.
> > In particular the following list of components are candidates.
> >
> > Component         Committers
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > bzip              peter + some ant devs?
> > tar               peter + some ant devs?
> > zip               peter + some ant devs?
>
> I believe these three are already in Commons-Sandbox.  Nicola started the
> migration.
>
> > naming            peter + anyone else like u Berin?
>
> Sure.
>
> > extension         phoenix devs
> > policy            phoenix devs
> > loader (when stable)
> >                   phoenix devs
>
> Get it over into sandbox.  BTW, there is a new project starting over
> there that is really interesting.  It is called "clazz".  I have been
> in talks with them to be able to have a project that provides metadata
> and delegates in a generic fashion (not just Avalon specific).
>
> > converter         peter + Eung-Ju
> > i18n              peter + Eung-Ju
>
> +1  make sure there isn't something that is conflicting/complimentary.
>
> > cache             Eung-Ju
> > cli               peter + Berin
>
> I have been in talks with the Commons CLI author.  He is very responsive,
> and *almost* has all the functionality that Avalon CLI has.  There are
> some issues, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.  The
> Commons CLI package is much more flexible, and it is easier to set up
> Options.
>
> > io (maybe merge with j-c io)
> >                   peter + Berin + jeff
>
> I think that work is already done.
>
> > Theres a few other components that may move but the above gives us a
> > start. Does anyone want add anything to the above list (either components
> > or committers)? As most of these components are stable, being a committer
> > will basically mean you go over there and help any problems that arise
> > and maybe add a smidgen more docs or code fix ups.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> We already have Collections merged, so we need to make our codebase
> depend on Commons variation.

-- 
Cheers,

Peter Donald
Einstein argued that there must be simplified explanations of nature, because
God is not capricious or arbitrary.  No such faith comforts the software
engineer.
- Fred Brooks, Jr.


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