Why don't we do both? It is more important to develope a model for 4.1 and 
continue enhance that where it is required. We can always keep a Framework5 
revolution in mind but I think that will fall out of things we do for 
Framework4.x. ie As we find uglies in Framework4.x we add them to a list of 
things that we should fix in Framework5.x and if by the time 4.x is finished 
the list is big enough we move to Framework5.x

On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 03:36, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> This is a vote to clarify whether we want to focus all
> our discussions of the new unified container to Avalon 5
> (next generation) or Avalon 4.1 (current generation).
> Here are the implications:
>
> Avalon 4.1
> ----------
> Current development.  We refine current interfaces so that
> the contracts are more universal and testable.  This includes
> the semantics we have surrounding Context and Serviceable.
> It also means that we can't clean up the cruft.  (deprecated
> stuff remains deprecated).
>
> Avalon 5
> --------
> New development/clean slate.  We leverage our experience with
> lifecycle interfaces to provide a starting point, but we do
> not limit ourselves to that alone.  We can clean up the cruft,
> but we must supply a "Compatibility JAR" to allow easy migration
> from Avalon 4.1 to Avalon 5.  We can also shorten the package
> names (minor, but sometimes helpful).  It also helps us unify
> on a new product.
>
> If we continue version 4.1 development we don't have the
> luxury of challenging any of the current lifecycle interfaces
> or making things just simply easier to use.
>
> Implied in either action is that the existing containers continue
> to live their lives until the new container is complete.
>
>
> Which is it?  Unified Container == Avalon 4.1 or Avalon 5?
>
>
> (Voting to remain open as long as necessary [not less than a
> week]).
>
> Please provide a quick comment why you made your choice (either
> way).

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Cheers,

Peter Donald
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