Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Remember though that the fact that commons strongly opposes anything
that has even a remote hint about avalon framework really doesn't help.
Just an observation: statements put in this "tone" rarely elicit the desired behavior from the one that you are trying to convince.

Here's some facts:

commons-logging will support logkit if it is present. I think this qualifies as a remote hint.

avalon-logkit can be used without requiring any other portion of the Avalon framework. I believe that this was a significant portion of the original objection.

Here's an opinion:

Let the past go. Focus on the future. And when trying to convince somebody of something, try to put in terms of how *they* will benefit.

- Sam Ruby




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