Leo Sutic wrote:

> The commons people are busy putting dependancies on CommonsLogging
> into things. Its cursing AltRMI now because of a dependecy on
> Attributes and HttpClient. Should we really be a in a rush to
> donate components?

Paul,

when we donate comonents there is an implicit trust that the receiving project will evolve the code in the spirit of the original and keep in mind that the code just received is a dependency for some other project. That's the downside of donating code. The upside is that unless we do donate code, the scope of Avalon will start growing. The dependencies created can also be seen as something good, as it forces cooperation among Apache projects.
Yup, well said.

That said, I'm worried about the inclusion of Commons logging into everything, as (if I understand it correctly) it isn't IoC, thus forcing the whole system into using Commons logging. Could you be more specific about in what way AltRMI is suffering? If we're going to talk to the Commons Logging people to see if a compromise can be reached (and I think we should), it would help to have a list of issues.
There was a thread that GeirMJ started some months back on commons-dev, because he wanted to use Commons Logging with an IOC method.

Anyway, since it's "commons", we sould really see that some compromise can be reached, even if I actually don't see the technical way... if a class gets the logger via a static method... unless we can invert the deliver on the *package*, and the static method gets it there, per instance. Just random thoughts...

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