Re: http://avalon.apache.org/

[Stephen McConnell]

Leo:

Thanks a million for getting this done.

I would like to get some feedback and opinions about the Avalon webpages bacause I think now is the time to handle any restructing of approach, message, and so on. I think the historical project oriented approach has left a lot of users confussed and has negivively impacted the take up on Avalon. I would like to suggest we rethink the the subjects we are trying to comminicate and get down to some good old-fasshioned human engineering on our web site.

I see two distinct "views" of Avalon - a "products view" and a "functional view":

If I compare this with the old and current Avalon site I see total domination of of the Project/CVS view - Framework, Excalibur, Cornerstone, Phoneix, Apps, Logkit (horizontally and vertically). Content presention should not been driven by the CVS structure - instead content and structure should be addressing utility for the customer.

Imagine an an alternative layout

|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| Avalon Home, Downloads, Documentation, Roadmap |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| Products | |
| Framework | |
| Containers | |
| Facilities | |
| Utilities | |
| Components | |
| Applications | |
|------------------| |
| Avalon Home | |
| ... | |
| ... | |
|------------------| |
| |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|

After playing around with the tables concerning avalon products, I'm confident we can get into a scenario where the product/facilities/applications side of the site is automated bassed on project information (things like release status, package sdescriptions, version, cvs repository, etc.). The same thing should apply to documentation and downloading. The Avalon Home is much more handcrafted content - and roadmap should be something maintained that shows where we are and where we are going.

Thoughts?

Cheers, Steve.

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Stephen J. McConnell
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