> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  On Behalf Of David Brown
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [avr-chat] Can't Install avr-gcc in FreeBSD
>
> Bob Paddock wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:24:11 -0400, David Brown
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Chris "open source is only used by hobbyists and other
> irrelevant poor
> >> people" Hills
> >
> > I have the "latests and greatest", all paid for, version of IAR for
> > the AVR right here.  I've yet to take it out of the envelope
> > and load it up.  The last time I "upgraded", their install process
> > ate all the files on my hard disk.    I use GCC because the support
> > has been magnitudes better that paid support I've every
> received from IAR.
> >
> > The one real GCC bug that I found an reported was fixed
> within a couple
> > of days.  It feels like it takes that long with IAR just to prove
> > to them that I have a legitimate copy.  A real problem with
> IAR resulted
> > in "we'll fix it in the next release" several months away.
> >
> > I was also contacted by IAR 'support' three times saying "I thought
> > you where going to order the upgrade?", long after the upgrade
> > I ordered had arrived.
> >
>
> You don't need to convince me - I've seen plenty of horror stories of
> this type, both myself and with my customers (although not
> with IAR - I
> have never bought a compiler from them).

It was my own frustrations with IAR that caused me to get involved in GCC
and start WinAVR in the first place.

[Note to Bob Paddock: For some weird reason, I'm still not seeing your
emails, even through the avr-chat list. :-/ ]

Eric




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