On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM, James Pearson<[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Jochen Schulz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Julien Danjou: >> > >> > I've published the results here[1] and wrote some analyzes too. You're >> > free to redo it yourself if do not trust me. :-) >> >> Just one little thought I had when reading your summary: you mention you >> should/are going te remove "tabulous, telak and invaders since they are >> not used." >> >> I don't know about the others, but I never really got what tabulous is >> about in the first place. Maybe it is just me, but I think that one may >> be actually more of an issue regarding the documentation and not >> tabulous itself. > > I'd tend to agree with this. I just modify what's in the default > configuration file (Awesome has been the first wm that works like I want by > default!), so if tabulous was included in there, even commented out, I'd > probably be using it. *shrug* > >> Most of our users do not seem to come from the tiling window manager >> world. > > This seems reasonable, as the general consensus on the Arch Linux forums > (where I went for information about tiling wms) seems to be that Awesome has > useful defaults and is generally easy to configure (and so is good for those > making their first foray into the world of tiling), and XMonad is faster > and more configurable, but requires you to invest a large amount of time > (you have to learn Haskell!) to get it to how you want it, the first time at > least. >
I have to disagree here. XMonad does NOT require you to learn Haskell at all. I know no Haskell whatsoever, and I am using XMonad, though I have also used Awesome. In fact, the documentation for XMonad makes it easy to configure XMonad without any knowledge of Haskell. There is a lot of documentation and step-by-step tutorials, and even the docs for the contributed staff make it simple to play around with it. In contrast, the docs for Awesome directly tell you to go learn Lua. For instance, here http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Awesome_3_configuration it says, explicitly, that "We're talking about Lua, so first, learn Lua. Don't want to? Do not use awesome 3 and stop reading right now. (Alternatively fetch a config file from the source tarball or from someone, and just tweak it accordingly, which should work even without any lua language knowledge). " Exactly the second sentence above applies to XMonad just the same if you know no Haskell. Best, R. >> Most of our users are using awesome for a long time, we do not get new >> users that much. > > It may also be that the new users just don't subscribe to the mailing list, > and thus didn't know about the survey. If it works like you want it to, > your motivation to subscribe to a program's list is much lower than if you > need lots of help, which was probably more the case for earlier users. ;) > > -- > James Pearson > -- > The best way to predict the future is to invent it. > - Alan Kay > -- Ramon Diaz-Uriarte Structural Biology and Biocomputing Programme Spanish National Cancer Centre (CNIO) http://ligarto.org/rdiaz Phone: +34-91-732-8000 ext. 3019 -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [email protected].
