Leonid, I think you would not deny that fix is elegant even if risky.
Adding a sniffer will make it ugly; besides, modern lightweight
desktop environments become wildly popular really fast --
look at LXDE -- much faster than Java version juggernaut is
changing version. What to sniff?
Perhaps we would have to file bugs in too many bug tracking systems.
"ICCCM establishes conventions, which are basically suggestions."

Thanks,
-yan

On 10/01/2013 04:38 PM, Leonid Romanov wrote:
I agree with you, but it would change our approach to the fix: for
instance, we might want to use the new realSync() version for Xfce only.
Also, we should a bug in Xfce bug tracking system then.

On 10/1/2013 16:27, Yuri Nesterenko wrote:
Sure we can say that Xfce is not complying -- it is not officially
supported by JDK -- neither is LXDE etc. -- but saying that gets
us nowhere.

As to testing, could you suggest a platform selection? I'm afraid
we'll not be able to test Xsun properly but Xorg with Gnome on
Linux and Solaris, Unity and Xfce4 --
all that we can do by the weekend.

Thanks,
-yan

On 10/01/2013 04:01 PM, Leonid Romanov wrote:
By the way, I was reading Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual
so I could better understand the fix, and found the following:

"4.3. Communication with the Window Manager by Means of Selections

For each screen they manage, window managers will acquire ownership of a
selection named WM_Sn, where n is the screen number, as described in
section 1.2.6. Window managers should comply with the conventions for
"Manager Selections" described in section 2.8. The intent is for clients
to be able to request a variety of information or services by issuing
conversion requests on this selection."

Considering this, can we say that Xfce is not complying to the spec?

On 10/1/2013 15:29, Anthony Petrov wrote:
Hi Oleg,

I second to Leonid: you should add a comment and explain why you
expect exactly 4 (or more) events to be processed. Preferably, you
should list each event to clearly understand this.

A minor comment is, lines 2404 - 2407 should be moved to the nearest
try{} block at line 2409.

A major concern is that I'm not sure the new solution is reliable in
all cases. Previously, we expected to get a notification from another
process (the WM). Now we process the notification ourselves and are
the owners of the selection. I don't know for sure, but suppose some
xlib implementations could optimize this scenario and process events
locally w/o even sending them to the X server. In which case there
wouldn't be any real synchronization of the native event queue. That's
why communicating with another process was an important part of this
procedure.

How about we try the original method first, and only if it fails, then
try this workaround solution?

Also, this is a very sensitive method because a lot of code relies on
it. I suggest running all automatic regression tests for AWT and Swing
areas to make sure we don't introduce a regression with this fix.

--
best regards,
Anthony

On 09/26/2013 11:56 AM, Oleg Pekhovskiy wrote:
Hi Leonid,

I did it mostly logically, because my fix added one more service event
(SelectionRequest), that should be excluded from the number of
dispatched native events.
IMHO, the previous number "2" should have been commented, but, that
did
not happen.

Thanks,
Oleg

On 25.09.2013 18:11, Leonid Romanov wrote:
Hi,
I'm not an expert in X11 programming, so I can't comment about the
fix
in general, but I think the line 2436, "return getEventNumber() -
event_number > 3", really asks for a comment.

On 9/25/2013 16:38, Oleg Pekhovskiy wrote:
Hi all,

please review the fix
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~bagiras/7033533.1/
for
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-7033533

Previous implementation of XToolkit.syncNativeQueue() relied upon
WM_S0 atom existence and that it was owned by current window
manager.
But several WMs (like XFCE and LXDE) don't send SelectionNotify
event
to the client on XConvertSelection() for that atom. That led
XToolkit.syncNativeQueue() to hang until TimeOutException.

I decided to keep XConvertSelection() usage, but make root toolkit
window as an owner for selection atom (with another name), and
handle
SelectionRequest event from X Server, sending SelectionNotify in
response (as window manager is supposed to do).

Tested on both XFCE and LXDE.

Thanks,
Oleg





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