Greetings! "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Monday, May 02, 2005 11:37 AM Camm Maguire wrote: > > > The gcl-tk stuff I posted earlier is at least an option which works > > with axiom as currently distributed on Linux. My feeling is that > > it is likely also a low hanging fruit on Windows. In the longer > > term, one might supplement or replace with lisp functions outputting > > html to a browser over a server socket. This will be supported > > without patches in 2.6.7. Anyone can experiment with cvs branch > > Version_2_6_7pre should they desire. > > This sounds like a good plan to me. > > > Bill Page wrote: > > > > > > I would like to understand how this "stdio multiplexing" thing > > > will work. Will it allow Axiom to simultaneously answer both > > > command line input and input/output via HTTP in a manner similar > > > to Axiom's current HyperTex browser? > > > > > > My thought was to provide a system variable naming a list of > > socket streams to watch, and have the GCL call to read on stdin > > be preceded by a call to select, effectively having GCL process > > stdin and any socket connections one at a time in the order in > > which data presents itself thereon. > > ... > > Perhaps in the general case we might need to "multiplex" both > stdin and stdout in pairs. One process like the HyperTeX > browser might send commands to Axiom, then receive the output > (or a copy of the output) and format it for inline display in > the browser. Meanwhile, a user might also type input commands > directly to the Axiom windows. > lisp has a rich stream structure for such purposes. input streams, output streams, two-way streams, synonym streams, concatenated streams ... > > In cvs branch Version_2_6_7pre, I've already implemented the > > other option of having GCL fork a background process to serve > > a socket, effectively letting the OS do the multitasking. > > This will need a bit more magic on windows. The final option > > of having the user call the socket serving function should be > > available on all platforms now. > > Hmmm... perhaps that explains why I don't seem to be able to > get Version_2_6_7pre to run the web server program properly > under windows? > If you are referring to the separately posted example, I am hoping that the GCL code is working but your empty page results for a missing system directory or file. > I guess I should revert to applying your patches to gcl 2.6.6 > and see if I can at least get that to work on Windows... > Unless I really erred, which is quite possible, the patch to 2.6.6 is already in 2.6.7pre. > > ... > > We could also either inline some of the source from these projects > > for these purposes into GCL (quite easy with compiler::link), or > > fork two sockets to keep latex and/or dvipng processes running and > > waiting for incremental input for performance reasons using run-process. > > I like that idea. Right now on MathAction new processes are started > by the Python latexwiki module (a Zope extension) for each call to > latex and ghostscript (used instead of dvipng in earlier versions > of latexwiki). This does represent a considerable overhead when > saving a page. And if we were to use latex and dvipng on the desktop > this would certainly be even more noticable. > > > > > > > As I currently understand in theory Axiom graphics can be served > > > using NAG's OpenInventor extensions of to the Axiom graphics > > > program together with either OpenInventor itself (now open source) > > > or a compatible VRML plug-in for a standard browser. > > > > > > Sounds like another forked process. The complication here will be > > working out the interprocess communication. client/server in either > > direction is not a problem, but current gcl-tk style gui/terminal > > process sharing will take some work. > > OpenInventor can run as a browser plug-in. In that case the browser > would handle the interprocess communication via HTTP. If we chose > to run OpenInventor as a stand alone viewer, then it would of > course have to do handle this itself. I presume that NAG has > already addressed this issue in their extension of Axiom graphics > for Windows. > > > [Bill Page claimed: Axiom graphics is superiou] > > > > Perhaps not for interactive rotations and the like, but > > > gnuplot's static 3d capabilities are impressive, at least > > > to me. And those new coloring extensions in version 4 > > > and greater as illustrated on the maxima page are outstanding > > > in my opinion. > > Have you seen the graphics examples in the Axiom book? :) > Perhaps I should take a second look :-). Can those pictures be generated with our current C/X11 graphics on Linux? Take care, > Regards, > Bill Page. > > > -- Camm Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] ========================================================================== "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah _______________________________________________ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer