On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 00:24 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Must people don't run Apache on their desktop configurations.
What? I don't know these most people, but most of the people I know run Apache. > Perhaps for performance reasons on a network mod_lisp might be > preferred although from what I hear Araneida is supposed to be > pretty good. Is any other reason why Tim Daly Jr. recommends an > Apache solution? I don't know exactly what you guys are doing, being CC'd in the middle of this and all, but I wouldn't think about performance until you have something working. Apache is solid, well-tested, and well-maintained. For a hostile environment like the internet, it's an appropriate choice. The author of Araneida runs it behind Apache, both for his commercial sites, and for the cliki. TBNL provides a more traditional framework than Araneida. I think it's also slightly more comprehensive, and certainly better documented. ;) > But cliki itself seems like a fairly neat and tidy wiki implemented > in lisp. If someone was motivated to add LaTeX and Axiom integration > to cliki then that might be quite interesting. FWIW, anybody who wants to play with cliki would probably have a lot more fun with cl-typesetting than LaTeX. :) > Since http://www.cliki.net lists Maxima as a common lisp application > and GCL as a common lisp implementation and Axiom runs on GCL it > makes sense that cliki.net should also include Axiom, so I have just > added it. If you get a chance, you might want to review what I wrote. Axiom runs in gcl's special "archaic" mode; it's not a Common Lisp program yet. But adding it to the cliki might help that process along. :) Thanks for adding it. > > Wouldn't it be nice (hint, hint :) if someone decided to do an > SBCL port of Axiom? I started on it, got a good chunk of the compiler compiled (which is a long way from working...), and couldn't maintain interest because (at least that part of) axiom's code is so awfully horrible. It seriously needs a rewrite, and I don't have the time. > > "drag and drop" works since the browser, the webserver, and > > lisp are all running on the same machine. > > ??? Seems to me there is a lot more to it than that! :( I think what Tim means here is that he doesn't see any reason why it wouldn't work, with suitable application of effort. There's always more to it. :( > > "embedded command window" is also possible. it appears that > > franz already offers this ability with a lisp prompt in a > > window. they appear to be using a java applet which opens a > > tcp connection to the host-based lisp process and emulates a > > terminal. > > Very "old tech"... I don't see why you think this is relevant. Actually, the web repl is only a year or two old, I think. What could you possibly think is "old tech" about it? What kind of a term is that, anyway? Software is not seasonal. If you don't understand the "old tech", you're just going to re-invent it, (probably in a bloated, embedded-in-a-web-browser, xml-compliant, and thoroughly unprincipaled way). > If you want to configure Apache on axiom-developer.org with > mod_lisp I would be glad to help although I doubt that I will be > much inclined to start developing web applications in lisp any > time soon. Compared to Zope (which some people seem to think is > pretty complicated) all this lisp-based web stuff seems completely > over the top to me... ;) Working on a web application written in Lisp might be a nice way to learn enough of it to work on Axiom. Despite rumors to the contrary, web applications are often simpler than computer algebra software. -- -Tim _______________________________________________ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer