Gene, I'm well aware of Knuth's missive that "any object of nontrivial complexity is non-optimum" and that stability is vital. I've already complained to several people about the Spad syntax changes of ** to ^ and ~= to !=, since I feel these break the published syntax. The Spad syntax is annoying but not a "serious flaw".
In fact you've discovered one of the reasons I am so conservative about language/system changes. Like Knuth, I'd like the code you write to continue to work 30 years from now. I have made extensions to the syntax but these are upward compatible. For example, the -- comments now have special meaning if they are followed by an uppercase character, although they are still comments. --X is used as an examples in Spad comments where you would document the gcd function with gcd(PI,PI) -> PI -- compute the gcd of two positive integers -- --X gcd(24,18) The -X lines in the example are output when the user does )describe gcd so the extension adds new documentation output. --S , --R, and --E are used as delimiters in input files. The --S marks the start of a test case, --R is the expected result line, and --E marks the end of a test, as in --S 3 of 20 3*7 --R --R (15) 21 --R Type: PositiveInteger --E 3 These delimiters are used during regression testing to check that Axiom gives the same answers as the result lines. Upward compatible extensions don't violate what is in the Jenks book. That said, Ralf is doing work in a particular domain on top of Spad. He is not making changes to the syntax or semantics of the language. I can see how it could be considered as incompatible though so you may have a point. I suppose Ralf's change could be made using a new domain (LatexOutputForm?) which would leave the existing work intact. A LatexOutputForm domain could have a coerce to latex function. This would lift the whole issue away from the )set command. However, the comments I've seen are mostly bike-shedding. Everybody has a favorite way to do latex with their favorite packages. It is easy to propose a different package (e.g. \begin{array} vs matform). That level of discussion has no principle (e.g. Knuth's serious flaw vs "because it is pretty") which can be used to resolve the issue. Ralf is doing great work and I hate to see such discouraging feedback. Tim _______________________________________________ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer