+1 from me (review by this weekend)
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:56:19 -0500, Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Farhaan! > > I'll start to read the code in earnest later this week / this weekend, and I > think targeting the chat next week for folks to be done with the review > would probably be a great idea so that we can use the IRC chat to discuss > things in realtime. I agree it hopefully won't take that long, and > hopefully everyone can commit to that schedule - Dims, Alek, Sanjiva, etc - > you OK with that plan? > > --Glen > > P.S. Very frustrating to be offline from 8AM until evening! Like missing > an arm. :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > Cc: "'Srinath Perera'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Glen Daniels" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:13 AM > Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > > > Hi > > > > I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this > > same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want > > you > > to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the > > mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which > > you > > will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for > > the > > release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer > > than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation > > also out for your review. > > > > Regards > > Farhaan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Srinath Perera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20 > > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > > > > Hi Glen; > > Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :) > > > > yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them > > done in two weeks > > > > We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance > > evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things are > > inorder. > > > > Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can > > we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one > > IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat > > this week? > > > > Thanks > > Srinath > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Hi folks! > >> > >> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet. > >> > >> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a > > release: > >> > >> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working > >> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three > >> folks aside from the author(s). > >> > >> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code" > >> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc. > >> > >> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed. > >> > >> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in > >> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys - > >> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that > >> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) - > >> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc.... I'm very concerned that, although we know this > >> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and > >> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to > >> start to gel and become harder to change. I also suspect we can trim > >> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release. > >> > >> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their > >> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks. > >> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where > >> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some > >> time into this in the evenings and next week. > >> > >> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand > >> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously > >> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in > >> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team. Even for an early > >> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page > >> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we > >> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is > >> well-architected, well-coded, and solid. If we don't have all those > >> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet. > >> > >> OK, whaddya think, team? A reasonable set of requests? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> --Glen > >> > >> > >> Farhaan Mohideen wrote: > >> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Farhaan > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23 > >> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org > >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >> > > >> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th > >> > > >> > > >> > Deepal > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Srinath Perera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana > >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th. > >> >>> > >> >>>Sanjiva. > >> >>> > >> >>>----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>>To: <axis-dev@ws.apache.org> > >> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM > >> >>> > >> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>Hi All > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course > >> > > >> > for a > >> > > >> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the > >> > > >> > documentation > >> > > >> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that > >> > > >> > they > >> > > >> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various > >> >>> > >> >>>Sahana > >> >>> > >> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and > >> >>> > >> >>>would > >> >>> > >> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the > >> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in > >> >>> > >> >>>August, > >> >>> > >> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to > >> > > >> > get > >> > > >> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and > >> > > >> > get > >> > > >> >>>>something out. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a > >> > > >> > draft > >> > > >> >>>of > >> >>> > >> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Farhaan > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48 > >> >>>>To: Axis developer list > >> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > >> >>>> > >> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some > >> >>>>concerns > >> >>>>about the site as well. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>[08:58] *** Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD > >> >>>>[08:59] *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis : > >> >>>>[09:02] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all > >> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All > >> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all > >> >>>>[09:05] *** farhaan joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All > >> >>>>[09:07] *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis - > >> >>>>Milestone Release > >> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all > >> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others > >> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ? > >> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ? > >> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;) > >> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here > >> >>>>[09:12] *** lilantha joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ? > >> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea > >> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ? > >> >>>>[09:16] *** chathura joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15 > >> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month > >> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb > >> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release > >> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ? > >> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1 > >> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very > >> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the > >> >>>>documentation that was missing > >> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done > >> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples > >> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs > >> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples > >> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep > >> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the > >> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast > >> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide > >> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide > >> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests > >> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well > >> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great > >> >>>>[09:23] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset > >> > > >> > by > >> > > >> >>>>peer) > >> >>>>[09:24] *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello > >> >>>>[09:24] *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo > >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah > >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected > >> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already? > >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop > >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope > >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now > >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet > >> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious. > >> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back > >> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being > >> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here > >> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :) > >> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :( > >> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu... > >> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok > >> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails > >> >>>>[09:27] *** chathurah joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs > >> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on > >> >>>>[09:28] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here > >> >>>>[09:30] *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ? > >> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah > >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site > >> >>>>[09:32] *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation > >> > > >> > timed > >> > > >> >>>out) > >> >>> > >> >>>>[09:32] *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out > >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there > >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release > >> >>>>M1 > >> >>>>[09:33] *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis > >> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ? > >> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software > >> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose > >> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't > >> >>>>the > >> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ? > >> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think > >> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ? > >> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS > >> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site > >> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor > >> >>>>apache account :( > >> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/ > >> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims > >> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can > >> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement. > >> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ? > >> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :) > >> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested > >> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images > >> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it > >> > > >> > again > >> > > >> >>>>:) > >> >>>>[09:42] *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >> > > >> > host) > >> > > >> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :) > >> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where > >> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1 > >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by > >> >>>>next week ? > >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review > >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ? > >> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide > >> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples > >> >>>>[09:47] *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >> >>> > >> >>>host) > >> >>> > >> >>>>[09:48] *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >> > > >> > host) > >> > > >> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for > >> >>>>the > >> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the > >> >>>>12th > >> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good. > >> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :) > >> >>>>[09:48] *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to > >> > > >> > host) > >> > > >> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then > >> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way > >> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the > >> >>> > >> >>>12th, > >> >>> > >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc... > >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend) > >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition? > >> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet? > >> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP > >> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet? > >> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more > >> >>>>[09:55] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, > >> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org" > >> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like > >> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine > >> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast > >> >>>>[10:02] *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla > >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" > >> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up > >> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log > >> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing > >> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All > >> >>>>[10:04] *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla > >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" > >> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's > >> >>>>discuss > >> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now > >> >>>>[10:06] *** farhaan left #apache-axis : > >> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got > >> >>>>the complete chat) > >> >>>>[10:10] *** lilantha left #apache-axis : > >> >>>>[10:11] *** chathura_ left #apache-axis : > >> >>>> > >> >>>>-- > >> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/