+1. Well said, David. I certainly think there is a lot of room for
discussion, and even contention, in the development process. The "-1"
is often used in informal discussion (i.e. not, accompanying a technical
justification, as a veto against a specific code-modification proposal)
as the conversational equivalent of "ew", but if we want it to keep it's
weight as a voting tool (and be able to tell when it's being used that
way), perhaps we should pare it back a bit.
We're all a team here, and our goal is to build the best software we
can, so +1 to more discussion and consensus-building.
I for one very much appreciated the sentiment, and the note.
--Glen
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
i totally agree!!!!!!
-- dims
On 6/4/07, David Illsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, forgive me if I'm way off or out of place, and please correct me
if I'm wrong, but in speaking to some Apache Members earlier this
year, I was told that -1's should be rare events which indicate that,
as a result of discussion, concensus/compromise is impossible, hence
it's status as a Veto*.
It's pretty common on this list (I'm not pointing a finger at anyone
in particular) that the first contribution someone makes to a thread
contains a -1. I don't think that's healthy because it tends to stop
discussion in its tracks when further discussion might (might!) result
in a good compromise.
I know (from experience) that when there's a +1 on the table and you
don't agree it's easy jump in with a -1 to try and stop it, but my
experience recently (where I've been trying to not do that) is that
further discussion without an explicit -1 normally works just as well.
Perhaps we can and should get a little less trigger happy with the -1?
Cheers,
David
* Note it's only actually a veto if accompanied by a *technical*
justification [1]
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#Veto
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David Illsley - IBM Web Services Development
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