Hi Rich,

Are we thinking of changing API also to use generics and other jdk
1.5specific things. I think this is an orthogonal issue
w.r.t. the movement towards jdk 1.5.
I am +1 for moving in to jdk 1.5 but 0- on changing the APIs, all of a
sudden. As Sanjiva mentioned, lets use jdk 1.5 features inside, but let's
not change APIs.

For example, I my self use JDK 1.5 everywhere I use Axiom. So this
transition is not a problem for me. But if some one changes interfaces, that
will affect me a lot.

Thanks,
Eran Chinthaka

On 2/29/08, R J Scheuerle Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> +0
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> If we move to JDK 1.5 and start using generics on exposed interfaces (like
> Axiom), then customers will need to move up to Java 1.5.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich Scheuerle
> IBM Web Services
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> yep. All 3 points are status quo w.r.t Axis2 1.3.
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> - -- dims
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> Jeff Barrett wrote:
> | Hi Folks,
> |
> | If we choose to stay on 1.4, remember that JAXWS requires Java 1.5 (due
> to
> | the spec-required use of generics).  I think there are a couple of
> modules
> | that require Java 1.5 to build.  Also note that in order to run the
> JAXWS
> | 2.1 TCK, that will also require Java 1.5 since the TCK will test the use
> | of generics.
> |
> | So, staying on Java 1.4 and supporting JAXWS probably means something
> | like:
> | - We have to be building with Java 1.5  to get JAXWS built
> | - We state that Axis2 can be run on 1.4 without JAXWS (as was true in
> the
> | past)
> | - To use Axis2 with JAXWS, you have to use Java 1.5
> |
> | Thanks,
> | Jeff
> |
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> | "Jeremy Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> |
> |
> | +1 to moving to Java 5. I think maintenance releases could be key in
> | keeping those users tied to Java 1.4, interested in Axis2 until
> | they're ready to move up to Java 5 themselves.
> |
> | Jeremy
> |
> | On 27/02/2008, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |> Yes I guess that makes sense.
> |>  However, its most likely that we would roll up whatever is in the
> | trunk.
> |>  I guess that there might be also end up being a 1.4.1 maintenance
> |>  release as well.
> |>
> |>
> |>  Paul
> |>
> |>
> |>  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Michele Mazzucco
> |>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |>  > Paul,
> |>  >
> |>  >  if so, I think release 1.4 should focus on fixing as much bugs as
> |>  >  possible, not on adding new features.
> |>  >
> |>  >  Michele
> |>  >
> |>  >
> |>  >
> |>  >  On 27 Feb 2008, at 09:59, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> |>  >
> |>  >  > My concern is that I think there has been a lot of work done
> since
> | the
> |>  >  > last release and the JDK1.4 users will never get that benefit.
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > So - how about this for a plan.
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > Release 1.4 asap based on JDK 1.4.
> |>  >  > Then do a 1.5 release *very soon after* based on JDK1.5.
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > That way even the names match :)
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > Axis2 1.4 can be the last major release targeted at JDK1.4.
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > As for 1.5, I think in fact it will need two releases - once we
> | start
> |>  >  > targeting 1.5 we probably need to do some 1.5 specific stuff like
> |>  >  > generating code that takes advantage of generics.
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > Paul
> |>  >  >
> |>  >  > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Sosnoski
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> |>  >  > wrote:
> |>  >  >>  From my experiences working with companies moving to Axis2 I'd
> | say
> |>  >  >>  about half are still using JDK 1.4. If they can't count on that
> |>  >  >> support
> |>  >  >>  being maintained I think they're likely to reconsider adopting
> |>  >  >> Axis2.
> |>  >  >>  Just having an archived 1.3 version of Axis2 won't be enough to
> |>  >  >> convince
> |>  >  >>  them, unless they're already committed to moving to JDK 1.5
> | anyway.
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>  It seems like bad timing to give up one of the major advantages
> |>  >  >> of Axis2
> |>  >  >>  over the Glassfish code and such. So -0 from me.
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>   - Dennis
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>  --
> |>  >  >>  Dennis M. Sosnoski
> |>  >  >>  SOA and Web Services in Java
> |>  >  >>  Axis2 Training and Consulting
> |>  >  >>  http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
> |>  >  >>  Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>
> |>  >  >>  Deepal Jayasinghe wrote:
> |>  >  >>> Hi all ,
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> As you might remember few months back Glen asked the list about
> |>  >  >>> moving
> |>  >  >>> to JDK 1.5 and I think we got very positive feedback. So I
> |>  >  >>> thought of
> |>  >  >>> asking again and change the code to work with JDK 1.5 . The
> main
> |>  >  >>> reason behind sending this mail is due the dependency we have
> | for
> |>  >  >>> annogen. As I can see that project is dead one and there is no
> |>  >  >>> development happening so I do not think it is a good idea to
> |>  >  >>> depend on
> |>  >  >>> such a project. In the meantime we have few issues with annogen
> | as
> |>  >  >>> well ,first  inner class problem (I have locally fixed that
> both
> | in
> |>  >  >>> Axis2 and Annogen will commit soon) , second is the final class
> |>  >  >>> problem. I request a release from annogen after the changes
> that
> |>  >  >>> Dims
> |>  >  >>> did , but we did not get any reply so far.
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> We all know that we get better annotation support from JDK 1.5
> | so if
> |>  >  >>> we move to JDK 1.5 we can get rid of the annogen dependency and
> |>  >  >>> we can
> |>  >  >>> just use JDK for annotation processing.  Other problem is
> | generic
> |>  >  >>> support , if we move to JDK 1.5 we can have generic support in
> | our
> |>  >  >>> POJOs.  In addition to POJO we can get better concurrent
> support
> | in
> |>  >  >>> JDK 1.5 as well.
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> So if we move to JDK 1.5 we can get better support , and I do
> | not
> |>  >  >>> think any advantage of staying in 1.4 . If some user want to
> use
> |>  >  >>> Axis2
> |>  >  >>> in JDK 1.4 they can happily use Axis2 1.3 , which is very
> stable
> |>  >  >>> version and working fine in 1.4 and 1.5.
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> If any user or developers have any concern on moving to JDK 1.5
> |>  >  >>> please
> |>  >  >>> come forward and reply to this mail that will be very helpful
> | for
> |>  >  >>> all
> |>  >  >>> of us.
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> Here is my +1 for moving to JDK 1.5 to and release Axis2 1.4 in
> |>  >  >>> JDK 1.5
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>> Thank you,
> |>  >  >>> Deepal
> |>  >  >>>
> |>  >  >>>
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