Hi Rich, Are we thinking of changing API also to use generics and other jdk 1.5specific things. I think this is an orthogonal issue w.r.t. the movement towards jdk 1.5. I am +1 for moving in to jdk 1.5 but 0- on changing the APIs, all of a sudden. As Sanjiva mentioned, lets use jdk 1.5 features inside, but let's not change APIs.
For example, I my self use JDK 1.5 everywhere I use Axiom. So this transition is not a problem for me. But if some one changes interfaces, that will affect me a lot. Thanks, Eran Chinthaka On 2/29/08, R J Scheuerle Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +0 > > If we move to JDK 1.5 and start using generics on exposed interfaces (like > Axiom), then customers will need to move up to Java 1.5. > > Thanks, > > Rich Scheuerle > IBM Web Services > Apache Axis2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 512-838-5115 (IBM TL 678-5115) > [image: Inactive hide details for Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]Davanum > Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > > 02/27/2008 08:33 AM Please respond to > [email protected] > > > To > > [email protected] > cc > > > Subject > > Re: [Axis2] Moving Axis2 code base into JDK 1.5 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeff, > > yep. All 3 points are status quo w.r.t Axis2 1.3. > > - -- dims > > Jeff Barrett wrote: > | Hi Folks, > | > | If we choose to stay on 1.4, remember that JAXWS requires Java 1.5 (due > to > | the spec-required use of generics). I think there are a couple of > modules > | that require Java 1.5 to build. Also note that in order to run the > JAXWS > | 2.1 TCK, that will also require Java 1.5 since the TCK will test the use > | of generics. > | > | So, staying on Java 1.4 and supporting JAXWS probably means something > | like: > | - We have to be building with Java 1.5 to get JAXWS built > | - We state that Axis2 can be run on 1.4 without JAXWS (as was true in > the > | past) > | - To use Axis2 with JAXWS, you have to use Java 1.5 > | > | Thanks, > | Jeff > | > | IBM Software Group - WebSphere Web Services Development > | Phone: 512-838-4587 or Tie Line 678-4587 > | Internet e-mail and Sametime ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | > | > | "Jeremy Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | 02/27/2008 05:15 AM > | Please respond to > | [email protected] > | > | > | To > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | cc > | "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > | Subject > | Re: [Axis2] Moving Axis2 code base into JDK 1.5 > | > | > | > | > | > | > | +1 to moving to Java 5. I think maintenance releases could be key in > | keeping those users tied to Java 1.4, interested in Axis2 until > | they're ready to move up to Java 5 themselves. > | > | Jeremy > | > | On 27/02/2008, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |> Yes I guess that makes sense. > |> However, its most likely that we would roll up whatever is in the > | trunk. > |> I guess that there might be also end up being a 1.4.1 maintenance > |> release as well. > |> > |> > |> Paul > |> > |> > |> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Michele Mazzucco > |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |> > Paul, > |> > > |> > if so, I think release 1.4 should focus on fixing as much bugs as > |> > possible, not on adding new features. > |> > > |> > Michele > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > On 27 Feb 2008, at 09:59, Paul Fremantle wrote: > |> > > |> > > My concern is that I think there has been a lot of work done > since > | the > |> > > last release and the JDK1.4 users will never get that benefit. > |> > > > |> > > So - how about this for a plan. > |> > > > |> > > Release 1.4 asap based on JDK 1.4. > |> > > Then do a 1.5 release *very soon after* based on JDK1.5. > |> > > > |> > > That way even the names match :) > |> > > > |> > > Axis2 1.4 can be the last major release targeted at JDK1.4. > |> > > > |> > > As for 1.5, I think in fact it will need two releases - once we > | start > |> > > targeting 1.5 we probably need to do some 1.5 specific stuff like > |> > > generating code that takes advantage of generics. > |> > > > |> > > Paul > |> > > > |> > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Sosnoski > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |> > > wrote: > |> > >> From my experiences working with companies moving to Axis2 I'd > | say > |> > >> about half are still using JDK 1.4. If they can't count on that > |> > >> support > |> > >> being maintained I think they're likely to reconsider adopting > |> > >> Axis2. > |> > >> Just having an archived 1.3 version of Axis2 won't be enough to > |> > >> convince > |> > >> them, unless they're already committed to moving to JDK 1.5 > | anyway. > |> > >> > |> > >> It seems like bad timing to give up one of the major advantages > |> > >> of Axis2 > |> > >> over the Glassfish code and such. So -0 from me. > |> > >> > |> > >> - Dennis > |> > >> > |> > >> -- > |> > >> Dennis M. Sosnoski > |> > >> SOA and Web Services in Java > |> > >> Axis2 Training and Consulting > |> > >> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz > |> > >> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117 > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > >> Deepal Jayasinghe wrote: > |> > >>> Hi all , > |> > >>> > |> > >>> As you might remember few months back Glen asked the list about > |> > >>> moving > |> > >>> to JDK 1.5 and I think we got very positive feedback. So I > |> > >>> thought of > |> > >>> asking again and change the code to work with JDK 1.5 . The > main > |> > >>> reason behind sending this mail is due the dependency we have > | for > |> > >>> annogen. As I can see that project is dead one and there is no > |> > >>> development happening so I do not think it is a good idea to > |> > >>> depend on > |> > >>> such a project. In the meantime we have few issues with annogen > | as > |> > >>> well ,first inner class problem (I have locally fixed that > both > | in > |> > >>> Axis2 and Annogen will commit soon) , second is the final class > |> > >>> problem. I request a release from annogen after the changes > that > |> > >>> Dims > |> > >>> did , but we did not get any reply so far. > |> > >>> > |> > >>> We all know that we get better annotation support from JDK 1.5 > | so if > |> > >>> we move to JDK 1.5 we can get rid of the annogen dependency and > |> > >>> we can > |> > >>> just use JDK for annotation processing. Other problem is > | generic > |> > >>> support , if we move to JDK 1.5 we can have generic support in > | our > |> > >>> POJOs. In addition to POJO we can get better concurrent > support > | in > |> > >>> JDK 1.5 as well. > |> > >>> > |> > >>> So if we move to JDK 1.5 we can get better support , and I do > | not > |> > >>> think any advantage of staying in 1.4 . If some user want to > use > |> > >>> Axis2 > |> > >>> in JDK 1.4 they can happily use Axis2 1.3 , which is very > stable > |> > >>> version and working fine in 1.4 and 1.5. > |> > >>> > |> > >>> If any user or developers have any concern on moving to JDK 1.5 > |> > >>> please > |> > >>> come forward and reply to this mail that will be very helpful > | for > |> > >>> all > |> > >>> of us. > |> > >>> > |> > >>> Here is my +1 for moving to JDK 1.5 to and release Axis2 1.4 in > |> > >>> JDK 1.5 > |> > >>> > |> > >>> Thank you, > |> > >>> Deepal > |> > >>> > |> > >>> > |> > >>> > | -------------------------------------------------------------------- > |> > >>> - > |> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > >>> > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > >> > | --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > >> > |> > >> > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > -- > |> > > Paul Fremantle > |> > > Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > |> > > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > |> > > > |> > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > |> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > > > |> > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > |> > > > |> > > > | --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > > > |> > > |> > > |> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > > |> > > |> > |> > |> > |> -- > |> Paul Fremantle > |> Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > |> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > |> > |> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > |> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > |> > |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > |> > | > | --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | > | > | > | --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Cygwin) > > iD8DBQFHxXTRgNg6eWEDv1kRAj/zAJwI2YhqdbFLXp9+PTaH9tWGKF/BzQCg6SOW > WJhsDffNlUFzv8zPmbrgVPA= > =EkRD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
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