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Folks,

FYI. Please see enclosed log.

- - Started a couple of pages in the Axis2 Confluence Wiki
~  * http://cwiki.apache.org/AXIS2/jaxws-21-support-in-axis2.html
~  * http://cwiki.apache.org/AXIS2/hackathon-ideas.html
- - Nick is working on a Simple Dispatch/Provider sample
- - Bill is working on a top down development sample
- - Jeff is working on a bottom up development sample
- - Got an Addressing Scenario sample based on Brian off line, will try to 
integrate it tomorrow.
- - jaxws-calculator now generates a jar that can be dropped into 
axis2/repository/servicejars
- - java_first_jaxws now can work under simple axis2 server (added support for 
dynamic wsdl/xsd in simple axis server)
- - Bill is working on some JAXWS documentation
- - Nikhil is working on AXIS2-3647 (JAXWS Sample - Asynchronous Echo with 
Async Communication doesn't work). Though we
did not see him on the IRC :)
- - Got dynamic wsdl scenario working under JDK16 w/o needing to add RI jars.

Hopefully everyone learned something useful today. Thanks to everyone (dkulp, 
HenryChung, ckmason among others) who came
to visit us on IRC as well.

thanks,
dims


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[08:41] <dims> good morning bill
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[08:51] <nagy> morning
[08:51] <barrettj> howdy
[08:53] <dims> hi barrettj, nagy
[08:54] <nagy> you already said good morning to me 8-]
[08:54] <dims> :) can u guys try to create Id's on axis2 confluence wiki? - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/recentlyupdated.action?key=AXIS2
[08:58] <nagy> it seems to use the same db as JIRA (i.e. mine just worked)
[08:58] <dims> perfect
[08:58] <dims> what's ur id?
[08:58] <nagy> nagy
[08:59] <barrettj> No such luck for me.
[08:59] <barrettj> Can't login with my Jira uid/pw
[08:59] <dims> try creating an id, bill must have created an id and forgot 
about it :)
[09:00] <nagy> probably 8-]
[09:00] <nagy> or maybe Jeff should just switch to Linux 8-]
[09:00] <dims> :)
[09:01] <barrettj> :-P
[09:02] <barrettj> ID created: barrettj
[09:02] <dims> nagy: try editing the page
[09:04] <nagy> worked fine
[09:04] <barrettj> Back in about 15 minutes ...
[09:05] <dims> barrettj: you should have access too
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[09:09] <scheu> ah here I am
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[09:09] <dims> scheu, DavidIllsley, please create logins on the axis2 
confluence wiki - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2
[09:12] <DavidIllsley> dims: my username is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[09:13] <dims> DavidIllsley: you have edit access now.
[09:13] <DavidIllsley> dims: thanks
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[09:18] <dims> ckmason: good morning, please create a login id on Axis2 
confluence site - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2
[09:23] <ckmason> Hi Dims.  Done.
[09:25] <dims> ckmason: what's the id?
[09:29] <dims> folks: please take a look at the wiki page, what else can we add 
there?
[09:29] <ckmason> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[09:30] <gallardo> Hello?
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[09:30] <nagy> rejected
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[09:31] <nagy> must be that Mac client 8-]
[09:31] <scheu> Can we add information to point at the jaxws-integration/samples
[09:31] <scheu> Maybe add a blurb about each sample on the wiki and point to 
the test/endpoint
[09:32] <gallardo> nah...
[09:32] <gallardo> then I could just use the standard unix tools... :)
[09:32] <gallardo> I'd like to blame it on Windows, just user error.
[09:32] <scheu> Many users want a representative sample of stuff they want to 
do...using the existing samples as "rough" templates will help.
[09:33] <gallardo> Have you guys covered a list of potential samples or you 
want me to throw some out there?
[09:33] <dims> gallardo: go ahead and throw it
[09:33] <nagy> the problem with the integration samples (and most of the 
samples already there) is that they either (1)don't help people figure out how 
to get that far or (2)if they already understand JAX-WS, don't help people use 
it in Axis2
[09:34] <nagy> I hope that some of the InfoCenter stuff that I'm trying to 
extract will address part of that
[09:34] <gallardo> nagy, agreed...  the difference in deployment makes it 
difficult to understand how to use for real.
[09:35] <scheu> okay...but perhaps there is some value in pointing at them as 
jaxws-integration tests
[09:35] <gallardo> 1. Simple Dispatch/Provider sample showing how to do dynamic 
service programming.  We've got most of this, but we can extend it to add a few 
useful pieces.
[09:35] <dims> scheu: you are talking about 
modules\jaxws-integration\test\org\apache\axis2\jaxws\sample?
[09:35] <nagy> scheu, I agree that there is some value
[09:35] <scheu> yes
[09:35] <dims> additional information never hurts :)
[09:36] <gallardo> 1. a. - Add WebServiceContext injection and show how to 
access WSDL properties to do operation determination and routing
[09:36] <dims> i'll tack it under advanced
[09:37] <gallardo> 1. b. - Add a set of handlers that show how to add simple 
headers to the message for Dispatch/Providers that work in PAYLOAD mode (only 
sending/receiving the body)
[09:37] <gallardo> 1. c. - A sample of building up a SOAPFault within the 
Provider and returning that to the dynamic client.
[09:37] <gallardo> (maybe I'm going a bit far here so stop me if people think 
this is too much)
[09:38] <gallardo> 1. d. - A sample for how to add an MTOM attachment in a 
dynamic service? (this goes much farther than most samples)
[09:38] <gallardo> The accompanying documentation pieces would need to be:
[09:39] <gallardo> 1. In general what the packaging structure is for JAX-WS 
client/services
[09:40] <gallardo> maybe that includes both within the WAR deployment and base 
Axis2 deployment?  Is there a limitation there currently?
[09:41] <gallardo> nagy, I think some of the documentation for the above 
already exists in the InfoCenter, so we can grab that from the stuff you're 
collecting.
[09:41] <dims> gallardo: let's push for WAR deployment or dropping jars under 
servicejars
[09:42] <gallardo> sounds good...  and the packaging for those is basically the 
same, right?
[09:42] <gallardo> any thoughts on the above samples?  too much?  keep going?
[09:44] <nagy> keep going if you have more 8-] (then we can pick)
[09:45] <dims> gallardo: take a look at the wiki page too 
[09:45] <dims> yes, and keep going
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[09:46] <dims> gallardo: any ideas on interop?
[09:46] <dims> (and please let me know you wiki id)
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[09:48] <gallardo> 2. top down development sample.  given a reasonable WSDL 
(something more than echo or HelloWorld), generate an endpoint and client using 
the tools.
[09:49] <dims> hi dkulp: welcome
[09:49] <dkulp> Hey
[09:49] <gallardo> 2. a. - A sample for how to generate the necessary server 
side code and package it up (similar to 1.)
[09:49] <dims> congrats on the cxf graduation dan!
[09:50] <gallardo> 2. b. - A sample for how to generate the necessary client 
code and package it up
[09:50] <dkulp> Well, it's not offiical until the board votes, but we're 
definitely excited about it.  :-)
[09:51] <gallardo> I think 2.a & 2.b are going to be the parts most people are 
interested in, given that it's the first thing they'll touch.
[09:51] <dims> gallardo: here's what i have so far from 
you...(http://slexy.org/raw/s20orH8zTd)
[09:52] <dims> gallardo: for 2, can we give it an interop twist? 
[09:53] <dims> pick some soap builders interop scenario?
[09:53] <gallardo> I'm not familiar with those scenarios, but I don't see why 
we couldn't.
[09:54] <dims> or even WCF 
[09:54] <dims> since they have their client and services online
[09:54] <gallardo> So, maybe the source is a WSDL from one of their scenarios 
and you show how to build up a client that interacts with a service they have 
hosted?
[09:54] <dims> yep
[09:55] <gallardo> Other than sourcing the WSDL from a known location, what 
else could be added to specifically make it an interop sample?
[09:55] <dims> http://mssoapinterop.org/ilab/
[09:56] <gallardo> Since this is 2.1, we can get input from David or Brian on 
some of the useful WS-Addressing scenarios.
[09:56] <dims> right
[09:56] <gallardo> Maybe the client asks the endpoint for an EPR and then uses 
that to target a service request?
[09:56] <DavidIllsley> gallardo: sure, that's the common pattern
[09:57] <DavidIllsley> creating an EPR to represent a shopping cart instance is 
a simplt example
[09:58] <gallardo> Perfect...  
[09:58] <dims> gallardo: created a page - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas
[09:58] <gallardo> Dims, that then requires the overlap in doc to address 
getting WS-Addressing configured for JAX-WS 2.1
[09:59] <gallardo> i.e., beyond the API config (adding in the 
AddressingFeature/@Addressing), what else needs to be done?
[09:59] <gallardo> drop in the addressing.mar in a specified location?  is that 
done by default in the build?
[09:59] <dims> gallardo: one of the samples show how to drop it into WEB-INF/lib
[10:00] * dims updates 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas with the 
addressing sample idea
[10:00] <dims> gallardo: if they use axis2 war, mar is already in modules
[10:00] <gallardo> ah, ok...  that's what I'd expected.
[10:00] <dims> so for this sample, we should show how to build a jar and drop 
it into servicejars directory
[10:01] <gallardo> k
[10:01] <dkulp> FYI: CXF has a "bank" demo (get account EPR from bank, then get 
account to check balance, etc...), although it's only setup for CORBA right now.
[10:01] <dims> more of cxf stuff is here - 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/cxf/trunk/distribution/src/main/release/samples/
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[10:02] <dims> hi HenryChung
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[10:02] <HenryChung> Hi Dims
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[10:03] <dims> hi jgawor
[10:04] <jgawor> dims: hey
[10:04] <dims> jgawor: we are working on a wiki page - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2 and 
generating ideas - 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas
[10:04] <gallardo> dims: another option to add to the interop/soapbuilders/etc. 
sample is MTOM and SOAP 1.2 toggles
[10:04] <dims> yep
[10:06] <gallardo> Going back up a level (3) I guess, we can contrast the 
top-down sample with a bottom-up one.
[10:06] <gallardo> again, most of this we already have, it's really just a 
question of documenting it.
[10:06] <dims> gallardo: 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas
[10:07] <dims> bottom-up - starting from java?
[10:07] <gallardo> yep
[10:07] <dims> any advanced tricks?
[10:08] <gallardo> newbie question... is the confluence login tied to any of 
the others in Apache, or do I need to register there as well?
[10:08] <dims> gallardo: need to created an id
[10:08] <dims> (and let me know)
[10:09] <dims> gallardo: any advanced jaxb related scenarios that we do? that 
we can showcase?
[10:09] <dims> for bottom-up?
[10:10] <gallardo> maybe show how to generate the beans first with xjc and then 
write the service impl (i.e. the desired pattern for bottom up development)
[10:10] <dims> woohoo, got a calculator sample from brian off line for 
addressing stuff i think
[10:10] <barrettj> newbie question: to get ready to run and write JAXWS 
samples, is mvn -Drelease install the trick?
[10:10] <dims> gallardo: sounds right
[10:10] <dims> barrettj: no need for -Drelease, once your regular build 
finishes, cd to the specific sample and run the command you see in README
[10:10] <gallardo> that could then include some use of the binding 
customizations in JAXB (top down example could include them for JAX-WS)
[10:11] <dims> all "-Drelease" does is to run "mvn install" under 
modules/distribution, which you can do later if you need a dist
[10:11] <dims> gallardo: sounds good, can you add an entry in the wiki for this 
scenario?
[10:11] <gallardo> yep
[10:12] <dims> looks like we have enough work for the day
[10:12] <dims> any other topics? or we can get cranking...
[10:12] <gallardo> dims: another scenario (that also pulls in Addressing).  
some samples showing how the async APIs are used and how to enable wire-level 
asynchrony vs. just at the programming model level.
[10:13] <dims> gallardo: the echo/ping sample from WAS has one, but 
unfortunately does not work yet (JIRA is already opened)
[10:14] <gallardo> k
[10:14] <gallardo> dims: confluence id is "nickgallardo"
[10:15] <dims> gallardo: done
[10:16] <dims> barrettj: so which one are u working on?
[10:17] <dims> just a remainder, don't work on packaging, making it fit etc, i 
can do that later. all i need is a zip with some working code.
[10:18] <dims> dont' waste time on mvn stuff / pom.xml etc.
[10:19] <gallardo> dims: I have some code I can pull from various places for 
the Dispatch/Provider stuff.  The only code sample I don't have for that is the 
MTOM in a Provider one, but that shouldn't be too bad.
[10:19] <dims> sounds good.
[10:20] <gallardo> updated the wiki
[10:21] <dims> thanks
[10:21] <dims> barrettj: which one are u picking up?
[10:22] <dims> DavidIllsley: would you have some time for the addressing sample?
[10:23] <scheu> I think we have MTOM in a provider.  I wrote the following:
[10:23] <scheu> org.apache.axis2.jaxws.provider.JAXBProviderTests
[10:24] <DavidIllsley> dims: not really :-(
[10:24] <dims> DavidIllsley: not a problem
[10:24] <scheu> Its a JAXB Dispatch test, where the JAXB object contains an 
MTOM attachment
[10:24] <DavidIllsley> I believe brian has a sample he used during development, 
I'll ping him to see how usable that would be
[10:25] <dims> DavidIllsley: yep, got it from brian, will work on it offline
[10:25] <dims> (later)
[10:26] <barrettj> dims: Was trying to get the existing jaxws-calculator sample 
to run, which it doesn't for me.
[10:26] <gallardo> scheu: perfect...  then I think we have all the code for 
that sample, just need to put it together.
[10:26] <dims> barrettj: it works under axis2 war
[10:27] <barrettj> not following the instructions in the reame then?
[10:27] <dims> ah the EPR may be wrong
[10:27] <barrettj> The ?WSDL works fine.
[10:28] <barrettj> the "/add" gets a JAXWS Message Receiver exception.
[10:32] <barrettj> dims: I'm trying to get the jaxws-calculator sample running.
[10:32] <barrettj> Getting a 500 Internal server error; the EPR looks correct 
in that I can hit it with ?wsdl
[10:33] <dims> can you see the console log on what the service name is (when it 
gets deployed)
[10:33] <dims> and use that?
[10:33] <dims> it should be servicename.portname
[10:34] <barrettj> Just turned on debug ... looking ...
[10:35] <dims> i forgot, this one is the services.xml one
[10:36] <barrettj> Maybe I'm doing the wrong thing here; figured we needed a 
running sample on which to base whatever we write.  Is there a better approach?
[10:37] <dims> java_first_jaxws is better
[10:37] <dims> stand alone war
[10:37] <barrettj> k; I'll try that.
[10:37] <barrettj> I'll open a Jira for the calculator not working per the 
readme?
[10:38] <dims> yes, please
[10:38] <barrettj> Any keywoards you would like in the summary for Jiras we 
open today?
[10:40] <dims> fix version 1.4
[10:41] <barrettj> Created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS2-3663 and 
set it as a blocker for now.
[10:42] <dims> thx
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[10:44] <dims> barrettj: we should make it into a jar that can be dropped into 
servicejars
[10:45] <dims> hi hughesj
[10:45] <dims> we are working on 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2 and 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas
[10:46] <hughesj> hi dims
[10:46] <barrettj> dims: Do you want me to work on that Jira? 
[10:49] <dims> barrettj: which one? the one you added?
[10:49] <dims> don't worry about that one
[10:51] <scheu> how do I edit 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2 
[10:51] <barrettj> k
[10:51] <scheu> ?
[10:51] <scheu> I only see a View tab
[10:52] <dims> scheu: create a login (try link in top right corner)
[10:53] <scheu> I am logged in and only see a View tab
[10:53] <dims> scheu: i need your id.
[10:53] <barrettj> dims: The java_first_jaxws sample doesn't work for me either 
(I'm sure I'm doing something wrong).  It is complaining that there is no 
services.xml during deployment.
[10:53] <scheu> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[11:00] <dims> barrettj: fixed the jaxws-calculator, please pull 
modules\samples\jaxws-calculator, it nows builds a jar that can be dropped into 
servicejars 
[11:00] <dims> let me look at java_first_jaxws
[11:01] <dims> scheu: please try now
[11:01] <barrettj> dims: thx
[11:01] <dims> barrettj: JIRA for java_first_ws please
[11:01] <barrettj> Sure.
[11:01] <dims> it generates a war right?
[11:01] <barrettj> Yes, a war and a jar.
[11:02] <dims> ok
[11:02] <dims> back in 15-20 mins..
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[11:02] <barrettj> I put both in the reposiityory/services directory
[11:04] <dims> barrettj: you need a tomcat instance and drop the war into 
webapps under tomcat
[11:04] <dims> but let me try the jar under axis2server...
[11:05] <dims> but let me try the jar under axis2server (under servicejars)...
[11:05] <barrettj> Does the war need to go there also?
[11:06] <barrettj> The jar is pretty empty.
[11:06] <dims> no
[11:06] <dims> "Rename the resultant war as your_web_app.war and drop it into 
any servlet engine."
[11:06] <dims> ah ok, then we can't use it with axis2 server
[11:07] <barrettj> Maybe need to spell that out for dummies like me.
[11:07] <barrettj> And/or fix it so it can be used with axis2 server.
[11:07] <dims> yep
[11:09] <barrettj> Jira for java_first: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS2-3664
[11:10] <barrettj> What should we be targeting what we're working on today for? 
 I thought Axis2 server, or should we install Tomcat?
[11:12] <dims> tomcat's better (esp for tck scenarios)...just unzip 
http://www.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-6/v6.0.16/bin/apache-tomcat-6.0.16.zip 
and drop the war into webapps and start tomcat using "catalina run"
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[11:13] <dims> hi roy!
[11:13] <dims> we are working on 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/JAXWS+2.1+support+in+Axis2 and 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AXIS2/Hackathon+Ideas
[11:13] <rwood-ibm> hi Dims
[11:13] <dims> please create a login id and let me know, will add access
[11:13] <rwood-ibm> ok
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[11:19] <dims> barrettj: that sample has no wsdl, so it needs ri jars, which is 
pulled down by the pom.xml and packaged into war
[11:20] <dims> (java_first_jaxws)
[11:20] <dims> so just dropping the jar into axis2server won't work right now
[11:20] <barrettj> k
[11:20] <dims> easier to fix README :)
[11:21] <barrettj> Yes :-)
[11:22] <dims> let me know if your jaxws-calculator worked after my fix
[11:22] <barrettj> Speaking of fixing readmes .... I pulled the calculator and 
I see you took out the client URL; seems like there should be some client 
provided or instructions on what to do.  As is, it only gets the service 
installed.
[11:22] <barrettj> Or did I miss something?
[11:22] <barrettj> From the new readme: "generate the client stubs pointing to 
the wsdl and invoke the service with appropriate client"
[11:23] <barrettj> The ?wsdl did work (which it did before)
[11:23] <barrettj> 
http://localhost:8080/axis2/services/CalculatorService.Calculator?wsdl
[11:23] <dims> yes, it was an attempt for a bare minimum service...yes, we 
should add a client.
[11:23] <dims> do you have soapui?
[11:23] <barrettj> k
[11:24] <barrettj> no
[11:24] <dims> http://www.soapui.org/
[11:24] <dims> it can suck in the wsdl, generate a request and you can click a 
button to test
[11:24] <dims> the service
[11:24] <dims> very easy...
[11:24] <barrettj> Spiffy.
[11:25] <dims> get the free one
[11:25] <barrettj> Sure.
[11:25] <barrettj> I'm cheap.
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[12:05] <dims> gallardo: working on the Dispatch/Provider sample?
[12:05] <dims> nagy: working on the top down development sample?
[12:05] <dims> barrettj: which one's yours?
[12:06] <dims> anyone else working on anything specific?
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[12:43] <dims> ....
[12:46] <dims> am seeing some problems generating wsdl when wsdl is missing...
[12:50] <dims> back in an hour or so.
[13:10] <barrettj> dims: I'll try the bottoms-up sample.
[13:38] <gallardo> dims: haven't had a chance to start the sample due to 
internal fires.  will work on it today though.
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[13:59] <dims> gallardo: sure
[14:02] <dims> am still looking at dynamic wsdl under axis2 server
[14:04] <gallardo> is that where we deploy an endpoint without WSDL and 
generate it on first touch?
[14:04] <dims> yes
[14:04] <dims> works under tomcat
[14:04] <dims> (last i checked)
[14:04] <dims> :)
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[15:45] <dims> sorry, needed a reboot
[15:47] <barrettj> <quoteBill>you should switch to Linux</quoteBill> :-)
[15:49] <dims> :)
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[15:53] <barrettj> Step 1 of the bottom up scenario "done"
[15:55] <dims> nice!
[15:55] <barrettj> Well, at least I'm learning lots :-)
[15:55] <dims> potholes on axis2 road? :)
[15:56] <barrettj> :-)
[15:57] <dims> if firefox prompts for an update 2.0.0.13 - *don't* let it update
[15:57] <dims> does not work at all for me
[15:57] <dims> using IE now
[15:57] <barrettj> Hmm... it is working fine for me
[15:58] <barrettj> Must be the gremlins moving over to your machine now '-)
[15:58] <dims> :)
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[16:31] <dims> almost there...(hopefully)
[16:36] <dims> barrettj: got ?wsdl working with simple axis2 server
[16:36] <barrettj> Cool :-)
[16:38] <barrettj> I have to leave.  I'll continue working on the bottoms-up 
sample this evening.
[16:38] <dims> bye
[16:38] <barrettj> TTFN. 
[16:52] <dims> just realized, if folks have jdk16, we don't need to tell them 
to drop in jaxws ri jars
[16:53] <dims> fixing axis2 to work with the WSToolsObjectFactory inside jdk16
[17:00] <dims> ok folks, i'll send a summary to axis-dev@
[17:01] <dims> thanks a ton to everyone!

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