well, I was refering to the "trivial little auto-deploy feature of Axis".

Its a shame they didnt make it able to support collections, because
there is absolutely (as far as I can tell) no technical reason not to.
I am sure there are reasons to use all of the features of wsdl, but
the learning curve is steep and when you can offer a simpler solution
there seems like no reason not to. I dont need all the features of
wsdl and I just can afford the weeks it will take (on my present
course, and based on the available docs) to learn how to do it the
non- "trivial little" way.

But perhaps I am over estimating the complexity of this. Is there any
kind of quick start that is easy to understand and doesnt require a
hundred pages of reading? I find the Axis website fairly unhelpful.

Hank

On 6/19/06, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
By "jws", are you referring to "Java Web Services", BEA's metadata-driven
system that forms the foundation of JAX-WS, or the trivial little
auto-deploy feature of Axis? If the latter, then bear in mind that jws is
useful for only the most trivial RPC-oriented invocations, in which all
parameters are simple types.

Anne


On 6/18/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
 I am developing an application for which I was intending to use a
different RPC strategy for use with a flash application. Unfortunately
the company (adobe/macromedia) has abandoned their "remoting"
technology for allowing flash to access java pojos. Now if you want a
decent solution you have to spend 6k or 20k for their "new
technology".

So now I need to use something else. Flash supports web services, so
this seems like a choice, but it is 150 times harder than their old
solution and I am overwhelmed. All of the documentation seems
circular, where in order to understand A you must understand B and to
understand B you must understand C and D etc. - couldnt they make this
easier :).

Anyway, I love the idea of jws, but it seems like the designers didnt
think it was a good idea to make things too simple because when you
read about it they immediately discourage its use.

But I am stubborn and would at least like to try to use jws, but I
cant seem to find any detailed documentation on what it will or wont
do - (great way to discourage use but I am persistent!).  That
calculator example in the docs for jws is great, but, for example how
would I send a table of information for populating a dataGrid? For
example, will it convert an Array, or an ArrayList of objects?

And I would love a more detailed explanation of what jws *wont* do
that I will really need. I am hoping that the designers visions of
what is necessary is just much grander than what I need and that it
would actually be fine. Because the learning curve for this stuff,
particularly for a project that is at the end of its development cycle
- not the beginning - is steep. This is seeming super painful.

Regards
Hank

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