Andrew...
If you execute the Java service & client I posted to the "stateful web
services" thread, and use tcpmon to peek at requests and responses, you will
see that Axis is using cookies to maintain session state.  I would recommend
that you employ the same technique (cookies) with your NET client.  Should
work exactly the same.  I am not an expert on NET, but it may be easy to
program the NET client to use cookies.  I don't know why you talk about
about 'application' scope below, because it seems you really need session
scope.  I dunno if this helps, but these are my thoughts.
Cheers.
Stan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Vardeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: how to implement sessions, persistent objects, etc. ?


> Lene, Stan and Glen,
>
> thanks for the tips.
>
> Unfortunately, the client won't be using Axis so I can't do things the
easy
> way; we're developing on the .NET desktop platform and assuming it will
> port easily to a CE device when our organization buys new handhelds (has
> been using Apple Newtons since 1997).
>
> So, do I understand correctly that I can declare my service to have
> application scope, and then its member variables persist to the next
> request?  That way I could build a hashtable of session IDs and objects
> that hold session data (I'm primarily interested in keeping a database
> handle open for transactions spanning multiple messages) and hook up each
> request from the .NET client with its session data based on a session ID
it
> would send as a SOAP header or something.
>
> Andrew
>
> At 03:32 PM 4/19/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Hi Andrew!
> >
> >Sessions are easy if you're using Axis on both sides - if not you have to
> >make sure that your non-Axis client can send the right cookies/SOAP
> >headers to use them.  Then you set your service to be session-enabled:
> >
> ><service name="whatever" provider="java:RPC">
> >   <parameter name="scope" value="session"/>
> >   ...
> ></service>
> >
> >The other issue, asynchronous callbacks, is more interesting, but isn't
> >something we support yet.  You'd essentially need the abiliity to have
> >Axis spawn off worker threads to handle asynchronous or process-based
> >backends.  Doable, but not for this release.
> >
> >--Glen
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew Vardeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:45 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: how to implement sessions, persistent objects, etc. ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks.
> > >
> > > My supervisor and I are hoping to use SOAP for communications
> > > between a
> > > handheld data collection instrument and the server where the data are
> > > stored.  For this we need a dialogue between the handheld and
> > > the server
> > > that will last for more than one request/response.  If I
> > > understand Axis
> > > properly, each request is an island.  How do I persist
> > > session data?  Or,
> > > suppose I want the server to send two messages for every one
> > > sent by the
> > > client.  Or, say I want to fire off an arbitrary number of
> > > status messages
> > > as I process the client's request.  Is there any way (other
> > > than writing a
> > > separate program and having Axis communicate with it, which
> > > seems to defeat
> > > the whole purpose of Axis) to keep a process running that is
> > > specific to
> > > one client's session?  Is it possible for the server to send
> > > "responses"
> > > without the associated requests?
> > >
> > > Does that make any sense?
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>

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