Generalization: A lot depends on how and what you measure. One could always
come up with measurement programs to emphasize the particular aspects of a
program. So comparing results for different measurement programs make no
sense.

On Parsing technology: I did some experiments to compare different parsing
technologies few months ago, and you may find the results still relevant.
Look at
http://www.pankaj-k.net/xpb4j/docs/Measurements-May30/measurements-May30-200
2.html 

I have not looked at WASP, Axis or JAX-RPC RI performance recently, but when
I had done almost a year ago, the result was: Java based WASP > JAX-RPC RI >
Axis. I am sure that things would have changed.

/Pankaj.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Axis performance in compare with XRPC (reference
> implementation from SUN)!
> 
> 
> It's not just advertising. I've done the benchmarks myself. 
> The performance
> differential varies depending on the length and complexity of 
> the message.
> With simple messages, the performance differential is closer 
> to 3-5x. As the
> length and complexity increases, so does the performance 
> differential. One
> thing to keep in mind is that WASP has pretty significant 
> initialization
> overhead. If you include the initialization in your benchmark 
> measurements,
> you won't see too much difference in performance. If you 
> measure after the
> initialization you'll see a much bigger difference.
> 
> Anne
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:43 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Axis performance in compare with XRPC (reference
> > implementation from SUN)!
> >
> >
> > Actually 10-15x faster seems to be only in the WASP advertising
> > in actuality
> > it's only 2-3x.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lu�s Fraga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Axis performance in compare with XRPC (reference
> > implementation from SUN)!
> >
> >
> > 10-15x faster than Axis!!??? I will have to check that!
> > What are your toughts regarding these performance issues?
> >
> >     Lu�s
> >
> >
> >
> > Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> >
> > >You'll find Axis performance much faster than Sun's 
> JAX-RPC RI. It also
> > >provides much easier tools. But the commercial 
> implementations are much
> > >faster and easier still. There are free versions available 
> for both GLUE
> > and
> > >WASP. GLUE Standard is always free. The footprint is tiny, too. See
> > >http://www.themindelectric.com. WASP is always free for 
> development, and
> > you
> > >can get a free deployment license for a single CPU 
> (multi-CPUs require
> > >payment). See http://www.systinet.com. These two implementations
> > offer the
> > >best performance (10-15x faster than Axis) and the best tools.
> > >
> > >Anne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Armond Avanes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 2:45 AM
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: Axis performance in compare with XRPC (reference 
> implementation
> > >>from SUN)!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi SOAP Folks,
> > >>
> > >>Anyone has compared the performance of these two implementations
> > >>(Apache's Axis and Sun's XRPC) in a real environment?!
> > >>
> > >>FYI, I'm in the phase of replacing the communication 
> layer (which is
> > >>reference implementation of SUN) of the application, I'm 
> working on,
> > >>with Axis. Sun's implementation generates so many classes 
> and uses many
> > >>libraries so causes the whole result (application jars, 
> ear's, war's,
> > >>etc) to be very huge. Another side effect is the build time of the
> > >>project, which is really much!
> > >>
> > >>I need all your ideas/suggestions/comments in this regard.
> > >>What problems may I get into with Axis? How's the 
> performance in compare
> > >>with other implementations? Is there any better 
> alternative than Axis
> > >>(free for sure!) And so on...
> > >>
> > >>Best Regards,
> > >>Armond
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 

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