Alex,

1. Using doc/literal on the wire reduces interoperability problems. The WS-I
Basic Profile requires the use of literal. From the on-the-wire SOAP message
perspective, WRAPPED and DOCUMENT are identical -- they both produce
document/literal on the wire. The only difference between these two options
is in what gets produced by Java2WSDL and WSDL2Java. When you use WRAPPED,
your WSDL file uses certain naming conventions that cause WSDL2Java to
produce an interface that supports invocation like:
      string return = myProxy.methodName( param1, param2 );
When you use DOCUMENT, WSDL2Java produces an interface like:
      string return = myProxy.methodName( javaBean );

2. Clients figure out how to use your service by interpreting your WSDL
file. If you let Axis generate your WSDL file for a doc/literal service,
currently it produces errors. You know what format your service needs to
process the requests, so you can build a client manually using the call
object. But other developers don't know anything about the service other
than what the WSDL tells them. If your WSDL has errors, no other clients
will be able to access your service.

Anne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Irazabal, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: WRAPPED services without wsdl


> Anne, can you clarify a couple of things for me, please?
> 1) What is the benefit of doc/literal on the wire using WRAPPED services?
> Why would one care what format is on the wire...
> 2) What do you mean "other clients won't be able to figure out how to
access
> your service"?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> [Irazabal, Alex]
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: WRAPPED services without wsdl
>
>
>
> I don't understand why you would try to create a WRAPPED web service
without
> using WSDL? It doesn't make any sense. The whole point behind WRAPPED is
to
> let you generate a client proxy object using WSDL2Java so that you can
> invoke the service using an RMI-style invocation (method name with
> parameters). From the client developer's point of view, WRAPPED makes the
> service look and feel like rpc/encoded, but on the wire it's doc/literal.
>
> But if you aren't using WSDL2Java, then you'll have to use the call
object.
>
> I don't think that Axis provides a mechanism to reference a schema file.
It
> only supports WSDL. Besides, Axis will always create a WSDL file for you
> when you deploy the service. The problem is that right now, the generated
> WSDL will have errors in it, which means that other clients won't be able
to
> figure out how to access your service.
>
> Here's some sample client code for a typical WRAPPED service. It should
look
> pretty much identical to client code for an RPC service:
>
> package test.axis.wrapped.client;
>
> import javax.xml.namespace.QName;
> import javax.xml.rpc.Service;
> import javax.xml.rpc.ServiceFactory;
> import java.net.URL;
> import test.axis.wrapped.iface;
>
> public class AxisWrappedClient
> {
>    public static void main(String[]args) throws Exception {
>         String UrlString = "wsdl-url";
>         String nameSpaceUri = "urn:axis.wrapped"
>         String serviceName = "WrappedService";
>         String portName = "WrappedServicePort";
>
>         URL currWsdlUrl = new URL(UrlString);
>         ServiceFactory serviceFactory = ServiceFactory.newInstance();
>         Service currService = serviceFactory.createService(currWsdlUrl,
>                 new QName(nameSpaceUri, serviceName));
>
>         Curr myProxy = (Curr) currService.getPort(
>                 new QName(nameSpaceUri, portName),
>                 test.axis.wrapped.iface.class);
>
>        string return = myProxy.methodName( arg[0], arg[1] );
>
>    }
> }
>
>
> Note that test.axis.wrapped.iface is the interface generated by WSDL2Java.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Dimuthu Leelarathne <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 AM
> Subject: WRAPPED services without wsdl
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to write a wrapped web service without using wsdl. I have some
> simple basic questions,
>
> 1. Where should I put the xml schema ? Should it be inside wsdd or should
I
> put a reference  to it in the wsdd ?
>
> 2. I read something like this written by Anne ;
>
> The main reason that you want to use WRAPPED
> is so that you can invoke your service using something like this:
> string ResponseInfo = service.SubscriptionRequest( usedId, password );
>
> If this is the case how can I provide it in the client without
instantiating
> a call object ? Since wsdl is not used stubs, SDI and etc ..... won't be
> created. So should I just anyway go ahead and use the call object ?
>
> Thank you,
> Dimuthu.
>

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