Jim,

Thanks. From the list of points you mentioned, the performance difference
will be negligible between the two approaches if the size of the message is
not too bib.

Does anyone have a simple sample WSDL for message based service? The example
with Axis 1.1 does not have a WSDL.

Thanks,
Soniya



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: message style SOAP service


Shah, Soniya M. [RA] wrote:

> 1. Could message-based service have WSDL?  Could we generate code 
> based
> on WSDL like we do for RPC based? I would think that this is not the 
> case as with document style you will have parse your own xml data. So 
> all you would need to publish is the schema for your xml?

Yes it has a WSDL - infact it will likely have more XSD since you might 
be modeling the XML a little more.

Yes you can generate code from this new doc/lit WSDL.  You can use 
WSDL2Java that ships with Axis or even customize your XML-Java 
marshaling with a custom serialization library like Castor or XMLBeans.


> 2. If you need attachements, is message based better approach or rpc? 
> OR
> that does not matter as attachements are not part of SOAP XML?

Not sure on this.


> 3. Is performance better with message based? I read some articles
> indicating that it is.

This really depends.  Performance can be hurt int he following areas:

1.  Request message serialization - translate from Java/C# objects to XML.
2.  Request Transfer - send/receiving the request XML 3.  Request
deserialization - parsing the XML on the server into XML 
and/or marshaling to Java/C# objects.
4.  The service work itself
5.  Response serialization - Java/C# objects to XML
6.  Response Transfer - send/receive the response XML
7.  Response deserialization - marshal the response XML to Java/C# objects


Whew.  Its really tough to tell which one(s) of those steps dominates in 
your case.  Notice that step #3 and 5 are soemwhat optional if you chose 
to process the XML directly so huge gains can  be made there but at the 
expense of programming convenience - if you're not and XML wonk.

The practical areas that affect perf:

1.  XML parsing - make a DOM vs. Stream (Sax) the XML.   For large 
documents > 1MB perf drops off really fast if you make a DOM. 2.  Message
size - more XML = more time to transmit.  But this is not as 
much of a problem as you'd think.  For small messages its negligible.


Hope this Helps,

Jim Murphy
Mindreef, Inc.



>  
> 4. If your SOAP service needs to return some response, rpc based is
> better? In message based it is supported by HTTP protocol but is it just 
> better to with rpc in this case?
>  
> Thanks,
> Soniya

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