On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:42 PM, mac_v<drkv...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >> On the other hand, fast boot is an explicit Ubuntu design goal for a >> variety of reasons including users typically start their computers because >> they want to use them. >> >> Before getting too set on installing updates at boot, I'd suggest some >> discussion with the people on the Ubuntu foundations team working on faster >> boot speed. >> >> Scott K >> > > ^+1 to Scott, > The only problem with constant reboots is, the delay to get your work > started, this leads to people not installing the updates at boot at all, > but rather later during the system use. > > Is there a way to explicitly *not start the package and update it* ? > > Like for example , now , when we do an update which asks for a reboot, > We only need to reboot once, But when updates are done at login , we are > rebooting twice[well not reboot exactly but starting the system twice]. > > So is there a way to mark the packages which require reboot , and Not > start them during the boot , but to update them and this would just > *delay the boot by a few seconds during which the present icon is shown* > > This way the user never actually reboots . > > But, i guess ,this can be done better with updates at shutdown. > With *updates at shutdown the user never has to actually reboot* . the > word Reboot doesnt even have to be used! > > The only scenario which is against updates at shutdown is for laptops , > needing immediate shutdown. > *So doing updates at shutdown and allowing option to instant shutdown* > is more logical and user friendly. > > cheers, > mac_v
Yeah, I think I see what you mean, this is kind of cool. So during one session my updates are downloaded automatically in the background. The next time I restart, before the desktop environment is loaded, we display a large present graphic with an encircling progress bar that says "Updating your system" and something like "Press Escape to boot immediately without updates". Being pre-downloaded, this could be pretty fast. Afterwards it goes in to the normal boot sequence, or if a reboot is required, restarts the kernel. I agree that log-in time is not very disruptive since I have nothing to interrupt except my patience and if I am in a hurry I can just press escape. That said shut-down also has some potential. I think it is cool that we are throwing out all sorts of ideas and conceptually iterating on them. Keep it up! Michael Rooney mroo...@ubuntu.com _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp