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On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Mark Curtis <merkin...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure what "cool maximize behaviour" you're referring to. > I believe he was referring to the maximize behavior which does not max to screen space, but rather, to the size needed to see all of the content of the window. > As far as the mockup, please make it possible to resize windows from more > than just the bottom right corner. > Obvious comparisons to Mac OS aside (of which there are too many with > Ubuntu's recent directions). Only being able to resize in one part of the > window versus 8 is extremely limiting. > > > From: dylanmcc...@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:33:27 -0700 > > To: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > > Subject: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing > > > > Here is yet another discussion on resizing windows, this time driven > > by status bars! > > > > MacOS has a similar situation to us, with very narrow window borders. > > In its case, they don't even _try_ to offer resizing by the window > > edge. (The idea being, I suppose, that any control less than five > > pixels in any direction will be very difficult to reliably use). > > Rendering that resizing situation less of an issue, MacOS has the very > > unusual functionality for expanding windows, and pretty well every > > window has a client-owned resizing grip in the bottom right. > > > > Gnome has a _similar_ solution in place. We don't have the cool > > maximize behaviour (and it would probably anger a great number of > > people if it was implemented), but any window that happens to have a > > status bar will probably have a resize grip as well. Unfortunately, > > this resize grip is not a widget you can just drop in easily; it's > > fused to the status bar widget. (Further demonstrating that the darn > > things have no objective and should stop being called status bars). > > > > So, here is the problem: there's a plan to get rid of of status bars > > and replace them with ephemeral hint bars. > > > > And now, I'll bring your attention back to everyone's favourite bug, > > lp:160311 (“Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is > > difficult”). > > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311 > > > > The status bar work shouldn't make that bug worse, but in the current > > direction it will. > > > > > > > > I discussed a possible solution for this somewhere, and nobody really > > gathered what I was babbling about. To fix that, I finally made a > > quick mockup today… > > > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~dylanmccall/mockups/metacity-resize-control/mockup.html > > > > That describes a visible resize control drawn by the window manager. > > It should fade in when the user moves the mouse near a window's bottom > > right corner. It should only appear for the window that is in the > > foreground. Clicking it would do the same thing as clicking and > > dragging the corner of a window's border, except there's a lot more to > > click and much more meaningful visual feedback. > > It does miss a critical detail, of course, but I, err, never saved the > > SVG. The resize control should go _behind_ the window, not in front of > > it. That way it sticks out from the window but doesn't interfere with > > anything in the client area. (As drawn there, it would become very > > difficult for some people to use scroll bars). > > > > > > > > I'm sure there are some other clever solutions here! Maybe even some > > plans attached to the Windicators / Hint bars work :) > > So, I am curious to know: is there anything happening in this space? > > Should there be? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > Dylan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > Learn more. > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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