To make things clearer, when he said > the app menu looks like it is exactly the type of control we are interested > in having (both for our own use, and because we think it is a good direction > for the general design of desktop applications).
he was referring to this menu<http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu?action=\> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here's Alex Faaborg's view on Firefox menu on the toolbar and the menu that > Ryan Peters suggested > > the app menu looks like it is exactly the type of control we are interested >> in having (both for our own use, and because we think it is a good direction >> for the general design of desktop applications). >> >> To answer Mark Shuttleworth's question: >> >> >> Allan, I haven't followed the Firefox usability and design discussion >>> around the Firefox Button, but can you tell us if there will be an >>> option to expose the button/menu off a button in the toolbar next to the >>> URL, as it is in Chrome? That would be most straightforwardly compatible >>> with our direction. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >> We are trying to differentiate between browser level commands and commands >> on the particular Web application. Since the browser is itself a platform, >> we want to draw a clear separation, both visually and interactively. For >> instance in these mockups the Firefox application button appears on the >> browser background layer while the tabs containing different Web >> applications appear in the foreground of the application: >> >> https://bug572482.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=451656 >> >> An additional reason for us to avoid placing the browser level commands on >> the navigation toolbar is that App Tabs (small persistent tabs on the far >> left side of the tab strip) may not have a toolbar, or may even choose to >> expose their own native toolbar using HTML5. (example: >> http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20100625-tabsOnTop/appTabHypotheticalMapApp.png >> ) >> Also note in this example how the app button is placed on the glass >> background layer. >> >> For the more general case of desktop applications that are not themselves >> a platform, we think the app menu is a great control because it merges the >> name of the application and top level commands into a single widget. >> Despite not being standard control on Windows, we are seeing this design get >> some pickup from other applications as well, most recently with the popular >> instant messenger Trillian: >> http://www.trillian.im/learn/tour-trillian5.html >> > > Shaun, that sounds cool :) > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Shaun McCance <sha...@gnome.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 11:15 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: >> > > > Help, Check for Updates, and About, that affect the entire program, >> > > > meaning every open window. >> > > "About" is a fair example. But "Help" should be context-sensitive >> > > whenever possible -- showing help relevant to the window you choose it >> > > from. >> > Maybe that could be implemented. The Help option now would simply open >> > the standard help menu for the application at the beginning. >> > Context-sensitiveness could be possible, thought I don't know how the >> > GNOME devs feel about it. >> >> We have a project underway to provide more dynamic and relevant >> help buttons, menus, and other controls. We could probably find >> ways to bring some of that to the application menu. Ping me if >> you're interested. >> >> -- >> Shaun >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> usability mailing list >> usabil...@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Allan > http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about> > +63 918 948 2520 > > -- Regards, Allan http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about> +63 918 948 2520
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