-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Saleel Velankar wrote on 15/03/11 19:39: > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:34:52 PM Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> I have a simple proposal to fix these problems: The application title >> should be removed from Unity's menu bar. > > Possibly. The titlebar is used to differentiate between two windows of > the same app, or less used to differentiate between windows of > different apps. By clicking the maximize button, the user is saying > that I want all the available screen space to be dedicated to this > window (note: its not this app) please see my tweak to thorwils idea.
The application title can't be used to differentiate two windows of the same app, because it is identical for both. And almost exactly the same problems exist for menus of maximized windows as of unmaximized ones; the redundancy problem is the only one that goes away. (It would be interesting to replace maximization with a standard function that really *does* make "all the available screen space ... dedicated to this window".) > On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:28:59 PM Thorsten Wilms wrote: >> >> If menus are disliked that much, I wonder where the alternatives are? >> Piling everything up in one mega-menu is only acceptable for seldom >> used functionality. Many applications have way to many commands to put >> them into a toolbar or to sprinkle the interface with them. Indeed. The mega-menu approach works only for applications with relatively few distinct functions, such as Web browsers. Even then, it's at a disadvantage compared with the menu bar: for example, it's quicker to find a page you visited yesterday in Chrome for Mac (because it has a full "History" menu) than in Chrome for Ubuntu or Windows (because they don't). > In the perfect world, there would be button in the toolbar. when you > click it will pop-up a box saying "what are you looking to do?" and > search/display through the menu options based on what the user has > typed ala GnomeDo/ Krunner. Mac OS X has that in the Help menu for every application. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoOvIqiWe0#t=22s> But searching works only if you are already confident that the application does the exact thing you're looking for. If you aren't, you still need to be able to browse the functions of the application. Menus are an information-dense way of presenting those functions. >... > Here is an idea, make it time based. it being 'giving the preference > to'. If I am watching a youtube video inside a maximized Firefox > windows, and my mouse activity is low, then the title should be given > the preference. If my mouse/keyboard activity picks up then the menu > should be given the preference. I assume this is technically feasible. >... The difficulty there is that the menu bar would be flickering from the menus to the title at a moment when you're probably trying to concentrate on something else. - -- mpt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2AmFMACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecr+SACgg2jHmkz2nt2zSMdOGzHc0295 CkQAoLUGQEI/6sPInhQ1mziNkYeDigQ2 =V4P9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp