Jay,
What censuses are your grandparents on and whgat name do I search under?
Check out this passenger list - the L is an S on the manifest:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Jose L Brum
Name:Jose L Brum
Arrival Date:21 Nov 1891
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1862
Age:29
Gender:Male
Port of Departure:Azores Islands and Lisbon, Portugal
Destination:New York
Place of Origin:United States of America;Portugal
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality:American;Portuguese (American)
Ship Name:Olinda
Carmen
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From: Jason Fraga <jay_fr...@applimetrix.com>
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:57:27 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: BRUM in Fayal, azores
Carmen,
My Great Great Grandfather was Joseph (I'm assuming Jose) Sylveira Brown, born
October 1860 somewhere in the Azores. I don't know which island, and I've not
seen anything but the anglocized version of his name. He married my GG
Grandmother, Serafina Thomas (b-31 Jan 1867 Corvo, d-18 November 1935 New
Bedford) and they lived in New Bedford.
I'm assuming his last name has to be Brum, but I'm kind of stumped on where
exactly he was at before he showed up in New Bedford. Censuses list his
immigration year around 1878, but I've never seen a manifest with him on it.
Jay
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>From: carmen furtado
>To: bellema...@gmail.com
>Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:45 PM
>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: BRUM in Fayal, azores
>
>
>"E"
>
>I found the manifest you are mentioning.
>
>I found John (Joao) living in Plymouth, Massachusetts on the 1900 and 1910
>censuses. I find his two youngest children living with Joseph S. Luis and
>Mary Luis in Hanford, Kings, California on the 1920 census. I think Mary is
>John's sister.
>
>I found that John's wife Priscilla died in childbirth on June 27, 1913 in
>Plymouth, Massachusetts.
>
>I can not understand why the manifest would have California and not
>Massachusetts on it.
>
>It looks as if he went to get Maria Pinheiro to bring her to California.
>
>Evidently he does have a California connection.
>
>Just found a Joao S Brown arriving in Boston on April 25, 1890 on the Sarah
>going to California.
>
>Do you think these two Joao's are one and the same?
>
>Anybody have any Brum ancestors?
>
>Thankjs.
>
>Carmen
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "bellema...@gmail.com" <bellema...@gmail.com>
>To: Azores@googlegroups.com; carmen furtado <carmen_furt...@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:38:59 PM
>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: BRUM in Fayal, azores
>
>Carmen,
>
>I found a Joao S. Brum 41, under Nationality, it says U. S. A., sailing on the
>S. S. Cretic from Sao Miguel March 25, 1913, last permanent residence Pedro
>Miguel, Faial, , going to San Jose CA. It says his Certificate was taken in
>Monterey County, CA. What is strange it says he was born in Sao Miguel, but
>where it lists city or town, there is just a line there. The person next to
>him on the list is a Maria Pinheiro leaving her aunt Francisca Delfina,Pedro
>Miguel was bon in Pedro Miguel?? It think he went back and forth more than
>once. Will keep looking if you think this is him.
>
>"E"
>
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>
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