In the parish records for Santa Cruz das Flores there are records for families of *de Freitas Jacob*. I've seen a Joao, Joao Jose and Pedro jose listed as parents. I haven't seen this in the marriage records of Flores and Corvo book
Eric Edgar On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Jason Fraga <jay_fr...@applimetrix.com>wrote: > That certainly would make a heck of a lot of sense. I’ll have to see if > I can push my line past the early 1600’s to see if it pans out. > > > > Thank you for the detailed explanation and the examples! > > > > Jay Fraga > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* John Vasconcelos [mailto:gfsjo...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:30 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Significance of the surname "Jacob" in > either Corvo or Flores? > > > > Jason, > I would be willing to bet that if you could trace your Fraga line back far > enough, you would eventually come to a "Jacob de Fraga". On Flores (and by > extention on Corvo since there is a lot of intermarriage between the two > islands) there have been several instances of using what is normally a first > name as a "surname". > > I can cite a specific example from the book "Familias ds Ihla das Flores" > by Francisco Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. In one family he traces, a > Nicolau de Fraga married to Maria Furtada has a son Manuel Francisco > Nicolau, who in turn has a son Francisco Antonio de Fraga, who in turn has a > son Manuel Francisco Nicolau. I could cite several other examples. In some > cases the "new surname" sticks. In other cases it alternates by generation > or unpredictably. > > In my own family tree, I *have a* 3GGFAntonio de Freitas Eduardo (m 1782) > from Fajazinha Flores whose father was Eduardo de Freitas. In present day > Fajazinha there is an Eduardo family who I'm sure I'm related to. In that > case, the Eduardo name "stuck". > > As to "why?" In the case of my "Freitas Eduardos", Freitas is a very common > Portuguese surname. I would bet that my ancestor wasn't the only "Antonio > Freitas" living in Fajazinha at the time. So my theory is that when there > were several people with the same name, the custom developed to distinguish > between them by their father's first name. Just my theory. > > By the way, there area a lot of Fraga families on Corvo so my theory would > seem to fit there. > > John Vasconcelos > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jason Fraga <jay_fr...@applimetrix.com> > wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about this surname? In my line, it first shows > up in 1767 with the Corvo birth of my 4XG Grandfather, Jose de Fraga Jacob. > It does not show up in any of the three generations before him that we know > of, although Fraga certainly does. He passes it on to his son (my 3XG > Grandfather) Antonio Jose de Fraga Jacob, who is born on Corvo in 1807. > > > > From there, it seems like a coin flip- some of Antonio Jose's kids get the > "de Fraga Jacob" name, and some just get the straight "de Fraga" name. My > 2XG Grandfather Braz Jacinto de Fraga did not get it. I'm interested in > Jacob for two reasons: as always, I'd love to determine if living relatives > are out there, and I'd also like to know where it comes from and why. > > > > Useless info: my Great Grandfather got "Jacob" for a middle name, and > nobody in my family understood the significance of the name until I started > doing family research 3 years ago, as we didn't know any of these guys ever > existed. Our knowledge stopped at my Great Grandfather, and we never even > knew which island he was from. My nephew who was born 10 years ago also got > "Jacob" for a middle name in a nod to my Great Grandfather. I think it's > neat that the name carried on into the modern day even if we had no idea > that it really had some family significance way back. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Jay Fraga > > Massachusetts > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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