Please keep me in mind on what you have found on de Andrade's since my grandmother was Maria do Espirito Santo de Andrade from Ariffes. Her father, Manuel de Almeida de Andrade Rodrigues was from Sao Roque. I have not searched her lines yet, but there may be a connection. She was born in 1884 and died 1963 in Riberia Grande. She had a brother Anton, two sisters, Odelia and Elise. Linda Borges Furtado Norton
_____ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:34 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name Jesse, can you give some dates or approximate dates for the people you mention. My husband's maternal grandmother was born in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel and I have some names that are the same as yours; however, without dates, I can't really tell if they are a match. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Jesse Pacheco <pacheco.jess...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jesse Pacheco <pacheco.jess...@gmail.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name To: "Azores Genealogy" <azores@googlegroups.com> Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 3:45 PM Hi everyone. Once again I am posting about a family I have mentioned previously but with new information behind me, which has, as always, brought new questions. I will give some background information first to leave out any room for error. My great great grandmother was Maria da Resureicao d'Andrade. Since this branch was estranged from my family, all of my information on them is from my own research. I can confirm that she was born 2 Apr 1888 from her SSDI record; I can confirm the death is hers from the obituary I found. From this information, I learned that she was born in Lagoa, SM, and her father's name was Antone (Antonio) Andrade and her mother was Mary Rose Moniz. Incidentally, Maria R.'s eventual mother in law was named Rosalina. It is that fact that gives me reason to believe that confusion may have occurred. With the help of Maria Moore from the list, I located a baptismo in Rosario, Lagoa, SM for a Maria born 2 Apr 1888 to Antonio d'Andrade Caggarinho and Maria Jose. Although "Jose" is very different in sound from "Rose," they are only one letter off; I believe that there was a mistake, somewhere along the line, and "Jose" may have been misread by someone having "Rosalina" in mind, possibly a grandchild who had never known their grandparents who remained in the Azores. This is only my theory. What the theory does not explain, though is the "Moniz" surname. The earliest record I have of Moniz is Maria Resureicao's marriage record, where her mother is listed as "Maria Moniz" and her mother-in-law as "Rosa Luiz." I have traced the family four to five generations back into the Azores, and this is Maria Jose "Moniz's" lineage: Maria Jose born 15 Apr 1853 to Manuel de Botelho and Elena do Espirito Santo. Manuel de Botelho was the son of Joze Botelho and Luzia Ignacia, the paternal grandson of Joze Botelho and Secilia Medeiros, and the maternal grandson of Estevao da Ponte and Jozefa Pacheca. Elena do Espirito Santo was the daughter of Antonio Jacinto (no "surname," just Jacinto) and Maria dos Santos, the paternal granddaughter of Joao Bento and Francisco Pereira, and the maternal granddaughter of Antonio Fereira and Thereza dos Santos. Nowhere in the lineage is a Moniz (or a Luiz, though I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with the family) and I am wondering where it may have come from. I am wondering if Maria Jose's father Manuel Botelho may have become Manuel Botelho Moniz at some point in his life, but I have two of his casamentos and he is just Botelho on both. I haven't been able to find his obito yet; he was born in 1797 in Agua do Pau, so I think the records are available for me to look online. I wanted to post about this first, though; does anyone else have any mysterious names like I do, or did I have a mistake in my research and this family is not even mine? I have been extra careful about that with this family since I had so little information of my own, so I hope that's not the case! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <http://us.mc506.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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