Richard, we have the consulate logs for all ships that brought Portuguese and Spanish to Hawaii. I created a data base of the 20,000 plus Portuguese immigrants to Hawaii.. The problem is the names that they used on the consulate log do not always match the names that they used later. As far as the marriage, it is very common in Hawaii for individuals from Madeira and Sao Miguel to intermarry, since many that came were related. Dan From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Borges/Teixeira Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:22:00 -0500
Hi Don, While I have done extensive research in Sao Miguel and Massachusetts I am not an expert on immigration to Hawaii. There are others on this list that does that very well. I will address things in generalities and in this case the immigration and marriage of this couple seem to be in question. Further research on the immigration to Hawaii is needed which may help pinpoint the origin of this couple. I find that a marriage of couple from the Azores and Madeira unusual and that is why I would urge further research. If they married in Hawaii then it is more likely and could be that a spouse had died in Hawaii. And this Emilia married the second time from necessity. This is all speculation on my part so records in Hawaii should be searched further. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Nelson Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 2:36 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Borges/Teixeira Richard, I have some questions about your email. first, let me give you some information. no ships came to Hawaii in 1887 from Portugal. in 1886 two ships did come from Madeira. The St. Mary's Cemetery is in Waihee, Maui, not Hana, Maui. the cemetery records do list a Manuel Teixeira, but he was born in 1890. of the 8 children you listed, I could only find Carrie, Manuel, Jacintho and Virginia residing with their mother in 1910. marriage certificates for Carrie and Virginia state that their father was born in Madeira and their mother Emilia Jula Borges was born in Sao Miguel. the death cert for Emilia Julia Borges does not list her parents' names. I did find an Emilia de Jesus on one of the 1886 ships, but without an age. I did find Mary, Clara, and Alvino Teixeira, but differnet parents. What record did you find these children with Emilia? We have a data base of Portuguese immigrants to Hawaii and their descendants (263,000 plus), so you would like a print out of the information that we have. send your mailing addresss to pgsho...@hotmail.com. Dan Nelson, Vice President, Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of Hawaii > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Borges/Teixeira > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:59:03 -0500 > > A good place to start would be the records from NS Estrela in Ribeira > Grande. The name Emilia is not common so that would help in searching. I > would compile as much information on this side to possibly have name to go > on and dates. > > Also in thinking about her name "Emilia de Jesus Borges" makes me believe > she married in the Azores and as such was married when she arrived in > Hawaii. A Woman usually does not take a religious name until they are > married. I would tend to think she and her first husband came to Hawaii > together so their names may show up on the passport records in the Azores. > > Sao Miguel is a large island and has many churches you would have to search > each of them separately. There are members on this list that specialize in > people that came to Hawaii from the Azores that may also help. > > Rick > > Richard Francis Pimentel > Spring, TX > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, > Sao Miguel, Acores > > > -----Original Message----- > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > nics > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:48 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Borges/Teixeira > > Thank you for this information! Do you know where I can find more > information on them in this area? Thank you. > > On Apr 17, 12:27 pm, "Richard Francis Pimentel" > <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I have found both names in the Ribeira Grande area on Sao Miguel. > > > > Rick > > > > Richard Francis Pimentel > > Spring, TX > > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada > > Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of nics > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:08 PM > > To: Azores Genealogy > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borges/Teixeira > > > > I have been attempting for several years to find information about my > > great-great grandmother, Emilia de Jesus Borges born in 1870 in Sao > Miguel. > > She immigrated to Hawaii in 1887, lived on Maui and died in > > 1918 and is buried on Oahu. Her 1st husband was Manuel Teixeira who > > originally we thought was also from Azores, but now believe him to be > > from Madeira. He is buried in Hana on Maui at St. Mary's church > > cemetery, that is all I know about him. They had 8 children Manuel, > > Mary, Carrie, Manuel, Jacintho, Clara, Albino and Virginia all of the > > children were born in Hawaii. Her 2nd husband was Jose G. Ferreira > > (1867-1929) and the 2 children they had together were Elizabeth and > Antone. > > If anyone has any information about Emilia de Jesus Borges or Manuel > > Teixeira, it would be very appreciated! Thank you. > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation > > Azores+directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > > Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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