Hi Shirley,
I don´t know who were the parents of Catarina Fernandes. Unfortunately I could never find the marriage record for João Mendes and Catarina Fernandes. They had children in Ponta Garça but I suspect that João Mendes is from Vila Franca do Campo and Catarina Fernandes is from the Froes family of Ponta Garça. But I am not sure yet. When I began to research all these people I also looked at the obitos in SM-VFC and I found two João Mendes deceased in that time period. On 23 sep 1686 and 9? feb 1690. And also on 1 apr 1690 there´s the obito of Maria, filha maior de João Mendes and Catarina? Fernandes? The one that died in 1686 seems to be the João Mendes who married Barbara da Costa on 10 feb 1675. Barbara married again with André Jorge on 03 apr 1690. Maybe the one that died on 1690 is my João Mendes. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em sexta-feira, 4 de janeiro de 2013 19h07min00s UTC-2, Shirley Allegre escreveu: > > Manoel: I have Joao Mendes born 7 Jan 1637 in Agua de Alto, Sao Miguel, > Azores. > BAPTISED > 11 Jan 1637, SP-Villa Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel, Azores. > DIED > pre 17 Feb 1694, in Ponta Garca ???? > > Do you know who were the parents of CATARINA FERNANDES??? > I have that she died pre 17 Feb 1694 - PG? > > 17 Feb 1694, is the date that their son Gonsalo de Mattos married Lusia de > Sousa. > > I have the Mendes Revoredo line back to about 1580 in SM-VFDC. > > Shirley in CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mances <javascript:> > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2013 3:55 AM > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Y-DNA roll call > > My male line is from from Ponta Garça, S. Miguel, around 1650: João Mendes > m. to Catarina Fernandes (Froes). > > Possibly from Vila Franca do Campo, S. Miguel: Francisco Mendes de > Revoredo, around 1580. > Manoel Cesar Furtado > > *Ahnentafel Chart for Vicente Furtado* > > ** > > ** > > *First Generation* > > ** > > 1.* Vicente Furtado * was born on 20 Nov 1746 in Vila Franca-SMA. > > Vicente married *Ana Furtado * daughter of João Furtado and Josefa da > Costa on 20 Aug 1781 in Vila Franca-SMA. Ana was born on 23 Jul 1756 in São > Roque. > > ** > > *Second Generation* > > ** > > 2.* Mateus de Sousa * was born on 22 Sep 1704 in Vila Franca-SMA. > He married Maria Furtado on 17 Jun 1731 in Vila Franca-SMA. > > 3.* Maria Furtado * was born about 1704 in Ponta Garça. > > ** > > *Third Generation* > > ** > > 4.* Gonçalo de Matos * was born in Ponta Garça. He married Luzia de > Sousa 17/02/1694 in Vila Franca-SMA. > > 5.* Luzia de Sousa * was born in Vila Franca-SMA. > > > > *Fourth Generation* > > ** > > 8.* João Mendes * was born in Ponta Garça (morador). He married > Catarina Fernandes. > > 9.* Catarina Fernandes [Froes]* was born in Ponta Garça (moradora). > > > Em sexta-feira, 4 de janeiro de 2013 04h17min24s UTC-2, Doug Holmes > escreveu: >> >> How about this idea? >> >> Let's do a Y-DNA roll call and anyone who has a direct paternal ancestral >> line that has at least one of the ancestors born in the Azores. >> >> So if you or someone you are related to got the Y-DNA test done through >> any company, like Ancestry.com, FTDNA, 23andMe, etc, and are willing to >> share the results on this list, just chime in. >> >> Due to privacy issues, only the administrators can see everyone's direct >> paternal Y-DNA test results. But maybe others, like myself would be >> interested to get a better picture of the current results. >> >> I'll start by repeating some of what I have quoted below about my >> Terceira ancestry. >> >> My direct paternal line goes back to an ancestor named MIGUEL GIL who was >> born about 1560, probably in Sao Bartolomeu, Terceira. >> He might be the son of Bras Gil, born about 1542, according to my current >> estimate. >> >> My Haplogroup is *R1b1a2* (Shorthand: *R-M269*). >> >> Anyone else willing to add to this? >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA haplogroup from Terceira >> From: <pi...@dholmes.com> >> Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 10:30 pm >> To: azo...@googlegroups.com >> >> Are there any Y-DNA matches between people with Azores ancestry yet? >> >> About the SNPs, I see "private" ones are uncommon: >> >> Some Y-DNA subbranch markers, SNPs (single nucleotide >> polymorphisms)<http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=21#782>, >> are restricted to a single family that is related in genealogical times (1 >> to 15 generations). These are family SNPs or private SNPs. Other SNPs are >> slightly older. They represent paternal lineage groups that predate the >> adoption of a family surname. These are semi-private SNPs. Both private and >> semi-private SNPs are uncommon. >> >> But I suppose a match certainly doesn't have to be from a private SNP. >> I'm still trying to get a handle on this... >> >> Are there any others who have this: >> *R1b1a2*Shorthand: *R-M269* >> >> Nancy Jean already told me E1b1b2a is for Morocco and Berbers I don't >> know the shorthand way to call it. >> My R-M269 is apparently for most of Western Europe. >> >> Looking at the graph that lists types A through S, it seems that the >> closer you get to A, that's the mythical Adam or ground zero, so the E for >> Berbers are more genetically close to Adam than are letters R, S and T. >> ( just noticed that T comes before S for some reason - a genetic anomaly? >> :-) >> >> And so my R seems to be one of the most distant or changed/altered DNA >> from the original Adam. >> >> Does it seem I have that straight? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> >> >> -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+un...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. Follow the confirmation > directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
